Any of those you mention work on Vista Graham? Trace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader > not really no. it is meant to get people out of emergencies where nothing > else works but they need to do something to the machine to get it working. > > You need a full screenreader whether it is a fully featured sscreenreader > like JAWS, Window-eyes or Hal or you could go for the cheaper System > Access. > > There is an open source free screen reader called Non visual desktop and a > free screenreading program called Thunder too. > > Regards > > Graham > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spring.flower" <spring.flower@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader > > > Not a lot of help then > > the prog, you're very helpful, thanks > > Trace > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:50 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader > > >> useful for getting round very basic bits of windows when for some reason >> or >> other your ordinary screenreader will not work. >> >> Narrator is absolutely not a screenreader and cannot really be used >> effectively and productively for even the most basic tasks. >> >> you can use it to navigate some bits of the windows operating system if >> you >> need to but that's about all. >> >> Cheers >> >> graham >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Spring.flower" <spring.flower@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:04 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader >> >> >> How good is it? >> >> Trace >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:30 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader >> >> >>> VISTA comes with Narrator like it did with XP and you can start it up >>> from >>> the logon screen as before using windows+U for the utility manager. >>> Regards. >>> >>> Tristram Llewellyn >>> Sight and Sound Technology >>> Technical Support >>> www.sightandsound.co.uk >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Spring.flower >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:52 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Vista's screen reader >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Remember me saying that I was having xp on my new laptop and not vista? >>> well, err, i spoke too soon, there's no sound driver for xp with that >>> model >>> of laptop so vista here I come. >>> >>> The problem is the speech, I believe there's a screen reader on vista? >>> how >>> good is it? 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