If you don't I'd go and download nvda now which is free and works very well, if you get on with it it'll certainly be enough to get you going in vista if you want to delay the pain of the jaws upgrade. It works in outlook express, word, and internet explorer and firefox and much more besides I'm sure - not outlook itself yet but sure that will follow. =20 Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility content manager British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ=20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: 26 April 2007 16:54 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader If you have JAWS 8, you can download the Vista Beta. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Spring.flower Sent: 26 April 2007 15:37 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader Thanks, what will that tell me and can I demo it? Another lister on here was talking about using vista on a laptop = only=3D20 earlier this week, how was he doing that? are there any other speech progs=3D20 that work with vista? Trace ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader > Suggest you look up Help in your current system - it's not really=20 > changed in Vista. > > George.=3D3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Spring.flower > Sent: 26 April 2007 15:13 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader > > You're so kind LOL > > OK, what could I do with it? can I read an e mail with it? > write a letter=3D3D20 > in word? > > Trace > > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20 > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:05 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader > > >> Helpful in an emergency is probably being kind. >> >> George.=3D3D3D20 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Spring.flower >> Sent: 26 April 2007 15:04 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader >> >> How good is it? >> >> Trace >> >> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D20 >> From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:30 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista's screen reader >> >> >>> VISTA comes with Narrator like it did with XP and you can >> start it up from=3D3D3D20 >>> the logon screen as before using windows+U for the > utility >> manager. >>> Regards. >>> >>> Tristram Llewellyn >>> Sight and Sound Technology >>> Technical Support >>> www.sightandsound.co.uk >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D20 >>> From: Spring.flower >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:52 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Vista's screen reader >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Remember me saying that I was having xp on my new laptop >> and not vista? >>> well, err, i spoke too soon, there's no sound driver for >> xp with that=3D3D3D20 >>> model >>> of laptop so vista here I come. >>> >>> The problem is the speech, I believe there's a screen >> reader on vista?=3D3D3D20 >>> how >>> good is it? and how does one activate it from within >> vista? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Trace >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following >> link:- >>> ** >> > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3D3D3D3Dunsubscr ib > e] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click >> on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3D3D3D3Dfaq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- > faq >>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following >> link:- >>> ** >> > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3D3D3D3Dunsubscr ib > e] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click > on >> the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3D3D3D3Dfaq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> >>> --=3D3D3D20 >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - 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