I couldn’t agree more with this post. I should say though that most samsung phones are accessible out of the box. Granted they do come with what could be considered samsung bloatware but they certainly quite accessible. But yes, for the best google experience being almost pure google moto g and nexus are by far the best and moto g being very decent phone for it’s price is most certainly worth considering. From: Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:35 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G Hi. That's why you shouldn't buy phones that have been modified by the manufacturer. If you by one branded by google where they haven't skinned the version of android, then the accessibility features should work as expected. The same would probably apply if apple started allowing manufacturers to skin ios, change home screens, etc. I would rather have more choice of which device to buy and the option of customisation, than be tied in to the closed walled garden world of ios where you can't even retreive music you have backed up to a device because itunes thinks you want to delete and resync your library! In summary, by a nexus device or motorola device from google and you should be fine. A lot of people are going to switch I think, because of the cost if nothing else! where is a budget iphone less than £400 available brand new? Just my opinion... Mo. Saqib <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I'm not really convinced with that mehtod of turning accessibility on. I tried a friend/s Samsung S3 Mini from the setup screen and it didn't do anything. I tried to get my daughter to turn Talkback on her S3 Mini and kept on getting a error message about setting the right language when the phone was purchased here in the UK. This is why people just don't trust the Android OS because it doesn't do what it says on the tin I'm afraid. Another example is when I bought a tablet and Talk back would read what I was touching and then it would cut out and read nothing. I mean how bloody shabby is that. I'm honestly trying to give Android the benefit of doubt put these incidents don't help a jot. Large propotion of people turn to IOS because it's trusted and Voiceover is well polished. Another words it does what it says on the tin. I would love to promote Android as well as IOS but how can I recommend something that just never works as it should! On 22 Nov 2013, at 11:04, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Mo,Turn it on, wait for about 20 seconds, then put two fingers on the screenslightly apart. After about four secs it will come up talking. Job done.All the bestSteve--Computer Room Services77 Exeter CloseStevenageHertfordshireSG1 4PWTel: +44(0)1438-742286Mob: +44(0)7956-334938Fax: +44(0)1438-759589Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxx.ukWeb: http://www.comproom.co.uk-----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfMobeen IqbalSent: 22 November 2013 09:31To: access-uk@freelists.orgSubject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto GHello.Its worth remembering that that price is for the 8GB version sim free. the 16GB version will set you back £160 sim free from phones 4 u. Steve, how do you launch the accessible setup on this handset? it would be fantastic if we can have full access to the device out of the box.all the best,Mo.On 22/11/2013 08:53, Steve Nutt wrote:Richard,The Moto G is already available in Phones4U at 119.00 with a 10 pounds topup or 135 pounds Sim-Free.We will hopefully be selling it from December, price to be announced,thoughnot quite that cheap. It wil l be sub-200 pounds though.This is a very worthy phone for the price, has 4.3 out of the box and willhave 4.4 Kitkat on it by January 2014.I am told by Someone who already owns it that it is accessible even to thepoint of setting it up with no sight, so Motorola haven't skinned it thatmuch either. It is almost a pure Google phone.It is not 4G compatible, though for the price, this is to be expected.Well worth a look.All the bestSteve--Computer Room Services77 Exeter CloseStevenageHertfordshireSG1 4PWTel: +44(0)1438-742286Mob: +44(0)7956-334938Fax: +44(0)1438-759589Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxx.ukWeb: http://www.comproom.co.uk-----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOfRichard KingSent: 21 November 2013 11:21To: access-ukSubject: [access-uk] The Moto GI think that Android is definately worthy of consideration over Appleat the moment, I have heard that Google are about to launch a newhandset since taking over Motorola Mobile, called the Moto G. And theword is it will retail in the UK for £135, a fraction of the cost ofan iPhone. 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