I'd add to this things like easy access to various keyboards which can be fully functional, not just used to be able to coppy /paste stuff. Also though not ideal for everyone because of security concerns, abilitty to install apps outside the market/play store. Also the choice of browsers
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Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:16 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G hi. not sure about it having been turned off, all i know is whenever i've been in to a shop and tried the triple tap trick, its never worked and i've had to get someone sighted in to activate accessibility, and by that time i've felt like walking away. Also, when apple release upgrades to IOS and accessibility breaks, they may not be in a hurry to fix reported issues from what i've heard. Sighted people have also had trouble with IOS7, for example the keyboard looks different and despite numerous requests on the apple forums to bring the old keyboard back, i don't think they've done so. I'm not saying android's perfect at all, but at least problems can be remedied without breaking the bank. Mo. On 23/11/2013 11:40, Kevin Cussick wrote:
this is correct just the same as IOS if you switch the triple tap off it won't work for the next person. I hear that the triple tap has been switched off buy default now is this correct? if so it is a step backwards. thanks in advance.On 23/11/2013 11:13, Vincent Thacker wrote:Saqib, the two-finger trick only works if the phone is new. If someon'e used it without accessibility being turmned on, they'd have to use the menus. At least that's my understanding. It wouldn't be hard for Google to amke all this better than it is, I'm sure. Vince. ======================================== Message Received: Nov 23 2013, 09:20 AM From: "Saqib" To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" Cc: Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G I'm not really convinced with that mehtod of turning accessibility on. I tried a friend/s Samsung S3 Mini from the setup screen and it didn't do anything. I tried to get my daughter to turn Talkback on her S3 Mini and kept on getting a error message about setting the right language when the phone was purchased here in the UK. This is why people just don't trust the Android OS because it doesn't do what it says on the tin I'm afraid. Another example is when I bought a tablet and Talk back would read what I was touching and then it would cut out and read nothing. I mean how bloody shabby is that. I'm honestly trying to give Android the benefit of doubt put these incidents don't help a jot. Large propotion of people turn to IOS because it's trusted and Voiceover is well polished. Another words it does what it says on the tin. I would love to promote Android as well as IOS but how can I recommend something that just never works as it should! > On 22 Nov 2013, at 11:04, "Steve Nutt" wrote: > > Hi Mo, > > Turn it on, wait for about 20 seconds, then put two fingers on the screen > slightly apart. After about four secs it will come up talking. Job done. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Mobeen Iqbal > Sent: 22 November 2013 09:31 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G > > Hello. > > Its worth remembering that that price is for the 8GB version sim free. > the 16GB version will set you back £160 sim free from phones 4 u. Steve,> how do you launch the accessible setup on this handset? it would be> fantastic if we can have full access to the device out of the box. > > all the best, > > Mo. > >> On 22/11/2013 08:53, Steve Nutt wrote: >> Richard, >> >> The Moto G is already available in Phones4U at 119.00 with a 10 pounds top >> up or 135 pounds Sim-Free. >> >> We will hopefully be selling it from December, price to be announced, > though >> not quite that cheap. It will be sub-200 pounds though. >> >> This is a very worthy phone for the price, has 4.3 out of the box and will >> have 4.4 Kitkat on it by January 2014. >> >> I am told by Someone who already owns it that it is accessible even to the >> point of setting it up with no sight, so Motorola haven't skinned it that >> much either. It is almost a pure Google phone. >> >> It is not 4G compatible, though for the price, this is to be expected. >> >> Well worth a look. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> Computer Room Services >> 77 Exeter Close >> Stevenage >> Hertfordshire >> SG1 4PW >> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of >> Richard King >> Sent: 21 November 2013 11:21 >> To: access-uk >> Subject: [access-uk] The Moto G >> >> I think that Android is definately worthy of consideration over Apple >> at the moment, I have heard that Google are about to launch a new >> handset since taking over Motorola Mobile, called the Moto G. And the>> word is it will retail in the UK for £135, a fraction of the cost of>> an iPhone. 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