[access-uk] Re: RNIB, how inefficient are they?

  • From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:01:53 +0100

Hi 

I just don't bother with them now, they are getting worse. 

Regards

Adrien


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 3:09 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB, how inefficient are they?

I have come to much the same conclusion these days, and that
RNIB stands for
Really Not Interested In the Blind! I also feel that those
of us with no
sight are just lost on the organisation altogether, it's all
about sight
loss, and those with some.


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 22 January 2015 13:16
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB, how inefficient are they?

Hi Dave,

Don't get me on my soap box about this one. Cynically, I
sometimes wonder
whether the more they can dissuade congenitally blind people
from blocking
their resources with loads of braille, the more they can
concentrate on
their pet subject: "sight loss". If they tell customers as a
matter of
course that braille copies will cost loads, take ages or
generate boatloads
of paper, they will get the answer they nudged their
customer to give: "Ok
then, I'll have an audio version". Then they will say: "more
and more people
are using audio and fewer are reading braille, so Braille's
on its way out".
Whooppee! They won't have to devote resources to it. Is
there such a thing
as "Lowp! (the opposite of hype), or of demoting rather than
promoting a
service? I encountered similar problems when I was asking
for computer
manuals as far back as 1982, so sadly, your tale leads me to
think nothing
has changed, except that the Institute sometimes appears to
be suffering
from sight loss itself...i  t's lost sight of the ball! I've
usually found
that a rough equation stands me in good stead:
Two-and-a-half to three
braille pages for every a4 side of dense print in a pretty
standard font
size. So, when I read the original was 96 pages, I thought
"300's going to
be nearer the mark. I read on, And surprise, surprise!

Best,
Clive  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Dave Sheridan
Sent: 22 January 2015 12:37
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] RNIB, how inefficient are they?



I recently received a Plextalk pocket portable daisy player
as a present.
The kind person who gave me this enquired about braille
instructions and was
told that they could do this but they would be about 600
pages. The person
accepted that audio instructions would suffice. After
receipt of said player
I rang to ask for braille instructions and was told the same
thing. I asked
for the braille copy. Interestingly the audio contents goes
up to page 96 so
I was a little confused why this would translate to 600
braille pages. I've
just received the instructions in 3 volumes totalling just
under 300 A4
pages. Clearly those people providing potential customers
with information
should be well informed and clearly they are not: 

To add to this a friend of mine who took out a subscription
to the talking
book service has been perplexed by RNIB sending books which
don't appear on
the list she supplied them with. This has occurred twice now
within a short
period of time, firstly with books she hadn't ordered
appearing on a pen
drive sent to her and since then having changed to disc she
has been sent
other titles not ordered by her. Having experienced this
myself over some
considerable time before I was blunt with them I I do wonder
why their
customer service is so poor. As you have to ask for braille
instructions
these days you would think they would give good information
and not try to
put you off getting them to do the job they are there to do.


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