[access-uk] Re: RNIB
- From: "Adrien" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:35:46 +0100
Hi
I know they charge 30 pence per issue for me over here in
France. Access it is £2.80 an issue, a rip off as it doesn't
cost any more to send an e-mail.
Regards
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: 21 November 2009 17:36
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Well, they don't now and as long as I have been receiving it
they never have.
Iain .
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From: "Adrien" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:10 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
> Hi
>
> Yes they do charge for the new products guide, or they
used to.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie
> Sent: 21 November 2009 10:21
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
> I think if this discussion is going to continue (and I
won't
> be surprised if the moderator doesn't step in soon), it is
> only right that the facts should be correct. RNIB does not
> charge for New Product Guide and it is available to anyone
> who wants it in any of the accessible formats. You also
have
> free access to the New Books magazine at least from the
web.
> Compare the price of Daisy books from RNIB with offerings
> available to the general public and you will see that RNIB
> prices are considerably lower. I have issues with RNIB but
> to say that it is ruled by a "grab" mentality is both
untrue
> and unfair.
>
> Iain
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:45 AM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
>>
>> Hi Eleanor, for them to charge for what ostensively is
> product news is
>> attrocious. They really don't know when to stop. It just
> seems to be
>> grab grab grab. They've totally lost sight of what
they're
> there for.
>> John.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:05 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>
>>
>>>I agree with all you say John. Of course RNiB should
> proof read just
>>>as any publishing company should proof read. Indeed many
> blind people
>>>lost jobs as proof readers in the RNIB sadly.
>>>
>>> One thing I do resent greatly from the RNIB is this
> membership and
>>> how one has to pay an annual subscription to be a member
> and then one
>>> gets a CD or whatever, it was even a cassette at one
> point, of the RNIB news.
>>> Now I think that is dreadful and shuld be free to
all!!!!
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:56 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Eleanor, no charity should make money from those it
> exists to
>>>> help. I don't know about you, but I've never had
> anything from the
>>>> RNIB I haven't paid for, and yet they'd have the public
> believe the
>>>> millions of pounds they contribute is used to help us.
>>>> I don't know if you remember, but around the time the
> penfriend was
>>>> released someone posted about mistakes in the braille
> instructions,
>>>> and the RNIB rep on the list said that they couldn't be
> expected to
>>>> proof read every document they issued. Of course they
> should. That
>>>> is one of the things the money they take in should pay
> for.
>>>> As for educational bodies claiming charitable status,
> although when
>>>> originally founded they may have qualified I'm sure
that
> many of
>>>> them shouldn't have it now. I think that with a lot of
> the
>>>> organisations that have had it for years and years it's
> taken for
>>>> granted and the charity commission don't keep as close
> an eye on them as they perhaps should.
>>>> John.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:29 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Indeed not but when I consider the RNIB and it does do
> work for
>>>>> blind people, then I can understand charity status but
> when I see
>>>>> educational establishments claiming charity status,
> even
>>>>> universities, then that worries me.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eleanor, maybe then the charity comission should
> check them
>>>>>> out. If they're doing nothing wrong they'd have
> nothing to worry about.
>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:11 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well John look at all that have Charity status and I
> wonder at that.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:01 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you're saying that as long as they're not a
> public company
>>>>>>>> with shareholders they can turn a profit, despite
> non profit
>>>>>>>> status? That seems rather a contradiction in terms.
> That would
>>>>>>>> be no different then than any non quoted company.
> They all
>>>>>>>> plough their profits back into the business.
>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:45 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Making money in one area of their business doesn't
> mean that
>>>>>>>>> they are breaking any rules. It is their full
> financial
>>>>>>>>> position which gets them a not for profit status;
> in other
>>>>>>>>> words they have to plough the money back into the
> business, not
>>>>>>>>> give it out as profits for shareholders.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have a problem with the RNIB for doing this
> you are
>>>>>>>>> going to have the same problem with all the rest
of
> the non-
>>>>>>>>> profit sector.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>
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