Hi John, Depends how you define profit. In the example that Iain gave, if a book costs more to produce than a print book, how are they making profit, by selling stuff at the same price? If anything, they are making a loss. Do the math. Just because it costs the same, doesn't mean a company or charity is making profit. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john coley Sent: Friday 20 November 2009 19:22 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB They shouldn't in that case claim to be a non profit organisation. The fact that you agree with it is immaterial. It is dishonest. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB > No, I am not shocked and I think it only right that RNIB should sell goods > at the same price as other suppliers. We should remember that Selling is > only part of the work which RNIB does and even here there are many areas > of subsidy. If we take books for example, a book is genrally sold by RNIB > at the same price as the print version. However, the cost of producing > that book is much greater than the print. If we were to be charged the > same price for audio books as the general market price, I don't think many > of us would be buying too many of them. Personally, I think there is too > much of the expecting to get things cheaper within the blind community. > > Iain > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:03 PM > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [access-uk] RNIB > >> >> Hi everybody, I learnt something the other day that shocked me. It's >> something that affects many of us. The RNIB as a charity is supposed to >> be a non profit organisation. >> When I was researching prices of a product recently I found it strange >> that the RNIB charged the same as other suppliers. I took it up with a >> friend at the RNIB, who confirmed to me that yes, they do make the same >> profit as other suppliers, but given their status as a non profit >> organisation they're not allowed to call it profit, so call it >> contribution. >> Given that any financial gain made on sale of something is profit >> whatever they choose to call it it comes down to the same thing. >> It would be interesting to know how officially they reconcile being a >> non profit organisation with their operating as a profit making one, that >> profit being made from those people they profess to be helping. >> John. >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq