[access-uk] Re: RNIB
- From: "Adrien" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:10:23 +0100
Hi
Yes they do charge for the new products guide, or they used
to.
Regards
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: 21 November 2009 10:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
I think if this discussion is going to continue (and I won't
be surprised if the moderator doesn't step in soon), it is
only right that the facts should be correct. RNIB does not
charge for New Product Guide and it is available to anyone
who wants it in any of the accessible formats. You also have
free access to the New Books magazine at least from the web.
Compare the price of Daisy books from RNIB with offerings
available to the general public and you will see that RNIB
prices are considerably lower. I have issues with RNIB but
to say that it is ruled by a "grab" mentality is both untrue
and unfair.
Iain
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From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:45 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
> Hi Eleanor, for them to charge for what ostensively is
product news is
> attrocious. They really don't know when to stop. It just
seems to be
> grab grab grab. They've totally lost sight of what they're
there for.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:05 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
>
>>I agree with all you say John. Of course RNiB should
proof read just
>>as any publishing company should proof read. Indeed many
blind people
>>lost jobs as proof readers in the RNIB sadly.
>>
>> One thing I do resent greatly from the RNIB is this
membership and
>> how one has to pay an annual subscription to be a member
and then one
>> gets a CD or whatever, it was even a cassette at one
point, of the RNIB news.
>> Now I think that is dreadful and shuld be free to all!!!!
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:56 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor, no charity should make money from those it
exists to
>>> help. I don't know about you, but I've never had
anything from the
>>> RNIB I haven't paid for, and yet they'd have the public
believe the
>>> millions of pounds they contribute is used to help us.
>>> I don't know if you remember, but around the time the
penfriend was
>>> released someone posted about mistakes in the braille
instructions,
>>> and the RNIB rep on the list said that they couldn't be
expected to
>>> proof read every document they issued. Of course they
should. That
>>> is one of the things the money they take in should pay
for.
>>> As for educational bodies claiming charitable status,
although when
>>> originally founded they may have qualified I'm sure that
many of
>>> them shouldn't have it now. I think that with a lot of
the
>>> organisations that have had it for years and years it's
taken for
>>> granted and the charity commission don't keep as close
an eye on them as they perhaps should.
>>> John.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:29 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>
>>>
>>>> Indeed not but when I consider the RNIB and it does do
work for
>>>> blind people, then I can understand charity status but
when I see
>>>> educational establishments claiming charity status,
even
>>>> universities, then that worries me.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:21 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eleanor, maybe then the charity comission should
check them
>>>>> out. If they're doing nothing wrong they'd have
nothing to worry about.
>>>>> John.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well John look at all that have Charity status and I
wonder at that.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:01 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're saying that as long as they're not a
public company
>>>>>>> with shareholders they can turn a profit, despite
non profit
>>>>>>> status? That seems rather a contradiction in terms.
That would
>>>>>>> be no different then than any non quoted company.
They all
>>>>>>> plough their profits back into the business.
>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Making money in one area of their business doesn't
mean that
>>>>>>>> they are breaking any rules. It is their full
financial
>>>>>>>> position which gets them a not for profit status;
in other
>>>>>>>> words they have to plough the money back into the
business, not
>>>>>>>> give it out as profits for shareholders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have a problem with the RNIB for doing this
you are
>>>>>>>> going to have the same problem with all the rest of
the non-
>>>>>>>> profit sector.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>
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