[access-uk] Re: Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines

  • From: George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:49:53 +0000

Correct - the ble contraction has been dropped. The reason being that it
causes confusion when back-translating in some cases.

George

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Derek Hornby
Sent: 10 April 2015 11:34
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines

I find it confusing
It seems like half in grade one and half grade two.

For example b l e rather than the b l e sign.

Derek
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Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 5:12 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines

That's the one I didn't get then, although some magasines say that the leaflet
is enclosed when it isn't.



Best,

Clive







From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Iain Lackie
Sent: 09 April 2015 17:05
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines



There are some magazines which have yet to appear in UEB. There was an
explanatory leaflet which contained a list of changes sent out independently of
magazines.



Iain



From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 4:40 PM

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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines



Hi Iain,



Perhaps I could have one of yours then (smile).



But seriously, perhaps it all depends which mags you get - say sheets in
Progress but not in Upbeat, as a random ex\ample.



Best,

Clive







From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Iain Lackie
Sent: 09 April 2015 16:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines



I have had two of these sheets. One came with a magazine and one arrived last
month. You must have been unlucky.



Iain



From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 3:04 PM

To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [access-uk] Possibly off-topic - U E B Braille Magazines



Hello all,



For information, I've just put in a complaint and a request for action to RNIB,
because last week, they started sending out magazines in Unified English
Braille. I have no problem with that, except that the notice (in U E B) at the
front of the magazines stated that a guide sheet was sent out along with the
magazine, showing the most commonly encountered changes to the code, but the
magazines I was reading had no such guide. I would also have thought that the
time to send out the guide sheet was when the magazines in "old skool Braille"
were heralding the imminent arrival of magazines in the Unified Code.



To go back to the code itself, from what I've now seen of it, I don't think
I'll have too much difficulty getting used to the effects of the loss of
certain contractions, and fully understand the logic of removing ambiguities,
such as dot six being used in contractions like ation and ally, and as
punctuations. However, it will be helpful to see how it is representing other
types of print, such as block capitals versus initial caps. Are wew on a hiding
to nothing trying to slavishly follow or represent pring though, so that we
have to surround a word with so many extra symbols to show that it's initial
capitals, underscored and bold, for example? I'm noticing increasingly that
documents I'm receiving are conveying information by colour coding. Will we one
day need a supercode, in which say, dot five followed by dot 2 followed by dots
5-6 followed by a slash means that the following word is in blue, with another
set to indicate red, so that we'll know which is which when the text says:
"Training courses in redhave no discount, courses in blue have a 50% earlybird
discount, and courses shown in green are free"? And on the subject of
disappearing contractions, I've never seen the point of the grade 2
representations of receiving, perceiving, deceiving, Declaring? I know it's
because the I N G sign wouldn't work, but why not just get rid and write c e v
ing instead of cvg?



Best,

Clive









Clive Lever

Diversity and Equality Officer

Kent County Council



Office: 03000 416388

Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx





Kent County Council

Room G37

Sessions House

Maidstone, Kent.

ME14 1XQ




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