[access-uk] Re: Jaws and Supernova users specifically excluded from law-breaking DWP DLA claims site.

  • From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:30:06 +0100

They did only refer to jaws and supanova. NVDA rocks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael A. Ray" <mike.ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws and Supernova users specifically excluded from law-breaking DWP DLA claims site.



Works fine with NVDA


On 30/04/2013 14:37, Jonathan H wrote:
Well, fair play to the RNIB, they DID call back and are very much
aware of this already and are actively investigating and apparently
there's been some social media anger about this on places like twitter
too.

Would be interesting to see how this plays out. IE6 indeed. Good grief!

On 30 April 2013 14:13, Jonathan H <digitaltoast@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This isn't for me, it was on behalf of someone else.

On 30 April 2013 14:08, Richard Godfrey-McKay
<lists.godfrey-mckay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jonathan, Specifically, what was it you wanted to do but couldn't on the
site?


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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jonathan H
Sent: 30 April 2013 13:39
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Jaws and Supernova users specifically excluded from
law-breaking DWP DLA claims site.

I find this pretty shocking. This is the government's current DLA claim
site.

Here is the requirements page: http://www.dwp.gov.uk/eservice/need.asp#

Begin quote:
"If you use Jaws or Supernova screen readers, we apologise for any problems
you may experience.
The service does not work properly with Macs or other Unix-based systems
even though you may be able to input information.
You are likely to have problems if you use Internet Explorer 7, 8, 9 and 10,
Windows Vista.
The latest supported operating system is Windows XP.
This service doesn't work with some modern browsers and operating systems".
End quote.

Now let's check the law:
http://www.rnib.org.uk/professionals/webaccessibility/lawsandstandards/Pages
/uk_law.aspx

"If someone with a disability, such as sight loss, can't access the
information on your website then it could be seen as discrimination.
The Equality Act came into force in October 2010, replacing the Disability
Discrimination Act (DDA) in England, Scotland and Wales".

It's one thing to have a shoddy blog website, but for a multi-million pound government disability website to violate the law quite so spectacularly and
exclude screen readers is way beyond acceptable.

When I phoned, they tried to claim that it can also be done by downloading a
PDF, printing it out and filling it in.
That's not an acceptable excuse - if you have a website, it needs to be
acceptable.

Complaints should be directed to eservicehelpdesk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I gave up waiting on hold to RNIB helpline to ask what to do about this,
still waiting for callback since 11am.

If anyone knows what can be done about this, then please let me know.
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