This is brilliant Steve, surely now there is no reason no to update the drivers, as I'll still have some speech from satogo if I do lose jfw. Of course in the event of losing jfw, fixing things would be another issue, but at least i would have a means of asking on list <smile> - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | Hi Andy, | | You don't need speech to get SA To Go running. Just go to the Run menu, | Windows-R, then type www.satogo.com into the run dialog, hit enter, and SA | To Go will start doing its thing. | | Alll the best | | Steve | | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | Andy Collins | Sent: Saturday 16 February 2008 18:49 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | Peter, I'm just thinking about this. If I go online and use SaToGo, when | updating my ATI drivers, and the system reboots, and JAWS doesn't come up | because of some intercept or chaining problem, I won't have speech in order | to be able to get back online to the SaToGo website to use it's software for | my speech while trying to fix JFW! - | | Andy | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:39 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | || Yes you could do that. It is a very good program and, you can go to any || computer that doesn't have a screenreader on it and in a minute or so have || system access to go up and running. || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> || Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:10 PM || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || || || > But Steve, how is one cautious? Either I do it or I don't, || > and either it will work or it won't. || > || > You have now suggested using SaToGo; I haven't used this programme, but | if || > I || > understand correctly, it isn't a downloadable programme, but one that | runs || > when connected to the internet, is that right? And if so, do I connect | to || > SaToGo, and then use it to update my drivers instead of JFW? || > || > Thanks - || > || > Andy || > ----- Original Message ----- || > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> || > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> || > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:36 PM || > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || > || > || > | Hi Andy, || > | || > | No, it shouldn't matter at all. I agree with George to be cautious, | but || > I || > | don't agree that it can't be done. || > | || > | All the best || > | || > | Steve || > | || > | -----Original Message----- || > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | Behalf || > Of || > | Andy Collins || > | Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 20:42 || > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || > | || > | Steve - does it matter which version of JFW is being used? I'm using || > 6.2? - || > | || > | Andy || > | ----- Original Message ----- || > | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> || > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> || > | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:24 PM || > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || > | || > | || > || Hi George, || > || || > || This is incorrect. With both Window-Eyes and JAWS, you can easily do || > it. || > || What happens is that on the reboot when the video drivers have been || > | updated, || > || both of them will ask you to reboot while they update the video || > | intercepts. || > || You are behind the times <Smile>. In fact, I even tried it with Hal || > and || > | it || > || works. || > || || > || All the best || > || || > || Steve || > || || > || -----Original Message----- || > || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On || > Behalf || > | Of || > || George Bell || > || Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 16:12 || > || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || > || || > || Hi Andy, || > || || > || You don't need to uninstall the old ATI drivers, but I'd be a shade || > wary || > || about installing new video drivers without sighted help to hand. It || > will || > || most likely break the video chain to your screen reader, leaving you || > | without || > || speech, and the necessity to re-install your screen reader. || > || || > || George. || > || || > || -----Original Message----- || > || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || > || [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins || > || Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:34 PM || > || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || > || Subject: [access-uk] Help with drivers please || > || || > || Hi all - || > || || > || I'm pasting my message from yesterday here again, as it got no || > responce, || > | and || > || I'm sure there are people on this list that can help, so please do if || > you || > || can, it's always apreciated. || > || || > || Start of message: || > || || > || Hi all - || > || || > || Ok, a scan of my PC tells me that certain drivers need updating, and || > I'm || > || trying to understand quite what to do, and what I need to download! || > || || > || When I click on the link from driveragent.com to update the driver, | the || > | page || > || that comes up says: || > || || > || "The following packages will provide display drivers and capture || > drivers || > || that can be used with various video capture programs." || > || || > || And then it lists what is in the package, the first thing being the || > | display || > || driver, is this all I'll need, or will I need the rest of the package || > that || > || includes things like 'catalyst control centre' or the 'WDM Integrated || > || Driver.' || > || || > || Can I ask too, if I need to uninstall from 'add/remove' || > || within the control || > || panel, the existing ati drivers that these updates are to replace? || > || || > || Thanks as ever - || > || || > || Andy || > || || > || ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following || > || link:- || > || ** || > || [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] || > || ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: || > 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