Well Carol,as long as you don't drive without due care and attention, all will be well <smile> - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:50 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | Hi, | | Sorry I meant to say "all works perfectly well without JFW" and not "with", | of course! | | Naughty girl! Thinking too fast and typing without due care and attention! | | -- | Carol | carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:34 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | | > Andy, | > | > The Intercept bit got me wondering ... How about talking to S&S at this | > stage and taking Jaws and your video driver through its paces. (You may | > need sighted assistance available to do this.) | > | > Other than that, I think Jackie's suggestion may come into play, but | > perhaps not before you've looked at the former suggestion above, since | > there still may be issues with Jaws and your video which can be identified | > and perhaps eradicated with the installation of new drivers. | > | > Have you ever got someone with sight to run these programs (CDEX in | > particular) without Jaws installed so that you can verify that all works | > perfectly well with JFW? | > | > Just a thought. | > | > Well, that's the best I can do now before bed. Hope you can get this | > sorted properly and well somehow soon. | > | > -- | > Carol | > carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:49 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | > | > | >> Jackie - I trust you not to send me up back alleys, well, not without my | >> long cane <smile> so, because I don't have any recovery discs; can I | >> still | >> do a format, and if so, how? | >> | >> I did have a reinstallation of XP 12 months ago. In amongst all this, I | >> still have a feeling that there's something about JFW connected to all | >> this, | >> I'm generally running 6.2, but do have a demo of version 9 on here, and | >> have | >> to say that it produced the same result with CDEX, and Windows Media | >> Player | >> as 6.2. I'm wondering if there's some setting that I haven't quite got | >> right, or if there is a clash between JFW and the whole video chain | >> thing. | >> | >> I seem to recall when my friend reinstalled XP, and we then put JAWS back | >> on | >> the system, we had to download an intercept file for JFW? to get it to | >> work | >> with the graphics card. | >> | >> Have to say I feel very frustrated with all this, I could get along | >> okish, | >> but now I can't burn any cds, even though trouble shooting both my DVDRW | >> and | >> DVD-rom drives says they are working fine, and there are no new drivers | >> for | >> either of them; I am unable to rip my music cds to mp3 with either CDEX | >> or | >> WMP. I installed RealPlayer1, to see if like you, I could use it to rip | >> music, and found nothing happened when I tried to run it, and when I | >> tried | >> to uninstall it, got a message saying that the uninstall component was | >> missing! | >> | >> Cheesed off is to under state it [frown frown grumble grumble!!!] - | >> | >> Andy | >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:30 PM | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | >> | >> | Hi Andy | >> | | >> | I appreciate that what I'm going to suggest isn't easy, especially with | >> a | >> | possible lack of sighted assistance, so please don't think I am being | >> | flippant of your predicament. But when was the last time you formatted | >> your | >> | system, or ran it through a full restore if you have the recovery | >> disks? | >> It | >> | seems to me from the posts you have made about all the various software | >> | installations not working properly that this might be a good idea. | >> | | >> | Trust me, it isn't something I'd advise gladly, but it would be my way | >> | forward as I believe a format now and then actually gets rid of the | >> crap | >> | that Windows accumulates in the Registry etc. And no matter how good | >> all | >> | these cleaning programs purport to be, there's nothing like a format | >> | occasionally. I know it has its hassles though, which is why I've got | >> | tongue very firmly in cheek (smile). | >> | | >> | Good luck. | >> | | >> | Jackie | >> | | >> | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | >> | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | >> | ----- Original Message ----- | >> | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:53 PM | >> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | | >> | | >> | > Hi George - | >> | > | >> | > I've 1024 of ram, and about 80GB HD space on this machine. | >> | > | >> | > All Microsoft updates are installed. | >> | > | >> | > You asked: "have you | >> | > | checked Windows Update to see what it thinks needs hardware | >> | > | updates for?" | >> | > | >> | > I'm not sure where to do this? | >> | > | >> | > I'm using XPHome with service pack2 | >> | > | >> | > Any more thoughts? - | >> | > | >> | > Andy | >> | > ----- Original Message ----- | >> | > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> | > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:43 PM | >> | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | > | >> | > | >> | > | Hi Andy, | >> | > | | >> | > | Video and Sound drivers are the two most risky areas where | >> | > | screen readers are concerned. It's always safer to have | >> | > | sighted help to hand. | >> | > | | >> | > | BTW, how much memory do you have in your system, and how | >> | > | much free hard drive space have you got? | >> | > | | >> | > | Likewise, what operating system and version of it? Does the | >> | > | system have all the critical updates applied, and have you | >> | > | checked Windows Update to see what it thinks needs hardware | >> | > | updates for? | >> | > | | >> | > | George. | >> | > | | >> | > | -----Original Message----- | >> | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> | > | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins | >> | > | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:27 PM | >> | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | > | | >> | > | Hi George - | >> | > | | >> | > | This feels a bit scary then, if I listen to some people, | >> | > | they say "make sure | >> | > | all your drivers are up to date" but in the case of the ATI | >> | > | drivers it sound | >> | > | best to leave well alone. I'm trying to sort out this | >> | > | problem I have when | >> | > | trying to rip music cds, or use Windows Media Player, where | >> | > | my PC keeps | >> | > | freezing, and was wondering if the ATI drivers might be | >> | > | causing the problem? | >> | > | | >> | > | The scan of my PC for drivers produced an update driver for | >> | > | my serial bus; | >> | > | could installing this create problems too? | >> | > | | >> | > | These websites recommending an update to drivers make it all | >> | > | sound so easy, | >> | > | but it isn't in reality <smile> - | >> | > | | >> | > | Andy | >> | > | ----- Original Message ----- | >> | > | From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> | > | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:11 PM | >> | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | > | | >> | > | | >> | > || Hi Andy, | >> | > || | >> | > || You don't need to uninstall the old ATI drivers, but I'd | >> | > | be | >> | > || a shade wary about installing new video drivers without | >> | > || sighted help to hand. It will most likely break the video | >> | > || chain to your screen reader, leaving you without speech, | >> | > | and | >> | > || the necessity to re-install your screen reader. | >> | > || | >> | > || George. | >> | > || | >> | > || -----Original Message----- | >> | > || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> | > || [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins | >> | > || Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:34 PM | >> | > || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> | > || Subject: [access-uk] Help with drivers please | >> | > || | >> | > || Hi all - | >> | > || | >> | > || I'm pasting my message from yesterday here again, as it | >> | > | got | >> | > || no responce, and | >> | > || I'm sure there are people on this list that can help, so | >> | > || please do if you | >> | > || can, it's always apreciated. | >> | > || | >> | > || Start of message: | >> | > || | >> | > || Hi all - | >> | > || | >> | > || Ok, a scan of my PC tells me that certain drivers need | >> | > || updating, and I'm | >> | > || trying to understand quite what to do, and what I need to | >> | > || download! | >> | > || | >> | > || When I click on the link from driveragent.com to update | >> | > | the | >> | > || driver, the page | >> | > || that comes up says: | >> | > || | >> | > || "The following packages will provide display drivers and | >> | > || capture drivers | >> | > || that can be used with various video capture programs." | >> | > || | >> | > || And then it lists what is in the package, the first thing | >> | > || being the display | >> | > || driver, is this all I'll need, or will I need the rest of | >> | > || the package that | >> | > || includes things like 'catalyst control centre' or the 'WDM | >> | > || Integrated | >> | > || Driver.' | >> | > || | >> | > || Can I ask too, if I need to uninstall from 'add/remove' | >> | > || within the control | >> | > || panel, the existing ati drivers that these updates are to | >> | > || replace? 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