[access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:19:40 +0000
This is the case with both my digital hearing aids, even though I have
two different models, one of which is from Optecom.
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:27:32 -0000, "Andy Collins"
<Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Christine - This has only been possible for me with the last two pairs
> I've
> had, which have been digital. For those that don't know, and this may not
> be
> the case with all makes of aids, but with some such as mine, the settings
> are done on a computer graph, to match the results of the audiogram
> [hearing
> test] and with the 't' there are three settings, one for everyday use,
> and a
> second that can be set to noisy environments, which switches off the rear
> mics, but this can also be set to music, but I find that setting not very
> good. The third setting, the t[loop] setting again, can be set
> independently, and will allow the wearer to still hear through the mics,
> as
> well as from the loop system; the mic sound isn't as good as just when on
> that setting, as it is partly being used to function with eh loop, but
> the
> computer adjustments do allow a percentage choice between how much is
> given
> to the loop and how much to the ordinary mic.
>
> Unfortunately, the abilities and interest of the audiologists you see can
> very greatly [or that has been my experience] some will take the time to
> explain things, and help you get the best from your ears, others just go
> by
> what the audiogram and the computer show; as we wearers know, hearing is
> subjective, so even though an audiogram may show a set of results, how we
> hear is still unique. -
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:36 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
>
>
> hah Andrew, you have one up on me with this one, my hearingaids have
> Never
> allowed me to here sounds around me at the same time as using the loop
> via
> the T setting! Do you have to ask for that? I've had over 30 years of
> missing out and not being an impressed fan of the T switch )I cannot do
> without) and I use it a Lot, I shall ask about This one! Thanks for your
> help in this.
> Please visit my group on:
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> Christine W.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
>
>
> Hi Andrew - It's probably true to say that all digital hearing aids have
> the
> 't' position for functioning with loop systems, certainly the 2 pairs I
> have
> used do, indeed, the pair I currently use, also allow the microphone to
> work
> when on the 't' setting, allowing me to hear what is going on around me
> as
> well as what comes over the loop system -
>
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:03 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't use hearing aids at all, but have a question.
>
> Recently in church we upgraded the sound system. We have got a loop,
> and we have a loop test headphone which I have used to verify that the
> signal is ok throughout the building.
>
> However, is it correct that digital hearing aids don't have a T switch
> on them for the loop setting (sorry if I get the terminology wrong
> here)? What is the best way of getting the loop working with a digital
> hearing aid?
>
> Thanks.
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Terry Clasper
> Sent: 03 December 2006 12:46
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
>
> HI Andy.
>
> Sorry for the delay in replying.
> Obviously the quality is kind of dependnet on the quality of the aids in
> the=20
> first place and how well they have been programmed. . However for me the
>
> sound is fantastic, all the high frequencies are just like they used to
>
> sound when I could wear headphones without hearing aids or indeed when I
>
> used to be able to hear almost perfectly! , and the detail of music is
> just=20
> fantastic. The other thing is that I can properly monitor levelsw when=20
> recording and mixing.
>
> I also sometimes use an FM link for this and whilst this fivces me much
> more=20
> flexibiolity of movement i.e not meaning I have to carry the device
> I'm=20
> listening to around with me, the sound is obviously momo so not suitable
> for=20
> a lot of the high quality listening which I do.
>
> I must say I've found the contributions to this thread very interesting,
>
> it's nifce to know that others are around who are in the same situation
> to=20
> myself, one which to be honest I don't talk about that often.
>
> All the best.
> Terry.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:48 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
>
>
> > Terry, thanks for the explanation and web link. I'm interested to know
> a=20
> > bit
> > about the quality of sound when using the cables and the shoe
> connection
> > with hearing aids; do you still hear the sound for music, in good
> quality
> > stereo? Do you have to use the T setting when listening in this way? I
> use
> > digital aids, and my hearing loss is severe, in the high frequency
> range,
> > mid and bass range is ok, so I guess a lot of this is dependent on
> one's
> > hearing loss, but if you can give us some idea of the quality
> difference
> > between using the hearing aid hook-up, and wearing headphones without=20
> > aids,
> > I for one would find that helpful. Is your hearing loss so great that
> you
> > can't really hear well enough using headphones without hearing aids,
> hence
> > this work around? -
> >
> > Andy
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Terry Clasper" <Terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 AM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
> >
> >
> > Hi again.
> >
> > Firstly I'm glad people think this is on topic, I'm always amazed at
> the
> > number of people like myself who are dealing with the combination of=20
> > visual
> > and hearing impairment, and certainly for me I feel that hearing aid
> > technology is now the best it's ever been.
> > so in answer to the question of how I get audio directly into my
> hearing
> > aids.
> > Most hearing aids have the ability to connect an audio Input shoe,
> with
> > clips onto the battery compartment sometimes increasing the overall
> size=20
> > of
> > the aid slightly. With some aids, like the ones I use which are the
> Phonak
> > Savia, the input shoes can be left permanently in place with other
> older
> > aids you clip/unclip them as and when required.
> > I wear two hearing aids so have a lead with on one end has two small
> two=20
> > pin
> > plugs, one plugging into each input shoe. On the other end of the lead
> is=20
> > a
> > 3.5 inch plug which I connect to whatever I want to listen to.
> > From my daisy talking book player to my MP3 player to my mixing desk,
> I=20
> > can
> > listen to high quality sound without any discomfort.
> >
> > I hope that answers that aspect of how I work, a good site to go for
> > information about audio input shoes for specific hearing aids is
> > www.deafequipement.co.uk
> >
> > I would though say that especially if you have digital hearing aids it
> is
> > likely that the aids will need to be programmed to work optimally, so
> if
> > have one talk to your hearing aid professional to ensure things are
> set up
> > as best as they can be and thus you get the best sound you can.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > rom: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:14 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
> >
> >
> >> Yes, I'd like to know this as well please? Sounds fascinating! Thanks
> >> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0000, "Andy Collins"
> >> <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> >>> Terry - I think this is very much on topic, after all, it is giving
> us
> >>> access to improved hearing, and it is about technology! and for me
> very
> >>> useful, and considering the number of us on these lists that have a
> duel
> >>> impairment, probably is more helpful than might at first be obvious.
> >>>
> >>> I use 2 digital hearing aids, and hate having to pull one out to
> answer
> >>> my
> >>> mobile [yes, I can hear the 6630 ok with volume up full] so that
> gadget
> >>> you
> >>> use sound most useful, and I for one would appreciate more details.
> >>>
> >>> I'd also like to hear more about how you plug cable directly in to
> your
> >>> hearing aids? Can't see how this is done! -
> >>> Andy
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "Terry Clasper" <Terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:28 PM
> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hearing aids stuff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi.
> >>> I use a great system from Fonak whereby the phone bluetooths to a
> small
> >>> "smartlink" device, which then transmits the phone signal which it
> >>> receives
> >>> via bluetooth via FM to my hearing aids.
> >>> It means I can speak through the smartlink which I ware around my
> neck ,
> >>> thus have handsfree access, and even better hear the output of the
> phone
> >>> in
> >>> both hearing aids clearly without having to put up with the hearing
> aids
> >>> feeding back due to the echoback from the phone output.
> >>> If you would like more information and perhaps for me to talk about
> this
> >>> in
> >>> more detail then perhaps it would be more appropriate to write to me
> >>> off-list at
> >>> terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> Briefly on the subject of the headphone with hearing aids thread,
> having
> >>> for
> >>> years and years worked with headphones placed on top of hearing aids
> >>> whilst
> >>> recording audio, working mixing desks, putting up with feedback and
> the
> >>> obvious discomfort of the pressure of the headphone pushing the
> earmold
> >>> through your brain, I now take the sound from the device I want to=20
> >>> listen
> >>> to
> >>> via a lead which on one end has a 3.5 jack and the other two plugs
> which
> >>> connect directly to the audio input of my hearing aidds. I can
> listen to
> >>> good quality sound very comfortably, and of course if I'm in a
> situation
> >>> where for example someone is watching the television and I don't
> want to
> >>> hear that only the thing I am listening too can turn the microphones
> off
> >>> on
> >>> my hearing aids.
> >>>
> >>> Again sorry for the detailed and potentially off-topic nature of
> this=20
> >>> and
> >>> again I'm very happy to talk more about this stuff either on or off
> list
> >>> which ever people consider most appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> Very best regards.
> >>>
> >>> Terry Clasper.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "andrew shipp" <andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: "access-uk" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:16 PM
> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Hearing aids stuff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hello All, Can anyone tell me of a good website to go to for
> any
> >>> > thing
> >>> > that is hearing aid compatible, or is there no such site. Does
> >>> > anyone
> >>> > use
> >>> > the Neck loop system for the mobile phone? I know there is more
> than
> >>> > one
> >>> > of
> >>> > these for uses with hearing aids, the one I'm really interested
> in
> >>> > is
> >>> > the
> >>> > blue tooth one,
> >>> > Regards
> >>> >
> >>> > Andrew Shipp
> >>> >
> >>> > Located Northampton Northamptonshire UK
> >>> >
> >>> > Home phone...+44]0,1604 517007
> >>> >
> >>> > Mobile 07983598287
> >>> > Skype name...andyshipp55
> >>> >
> >>> > Ham callsign M 0 C E G
> >>> > Echolink node 220344
> >>> >
> >>> >
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