Hi Yes I agree there are guide dog lists and if anyone wants the details please email me off list. Thanks Debbie you can contact me on: email: wadham.house@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx skype debs1965 msn: wadham.house@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx aim screen name wadham house Vonage phone No: 01392 346351 Mobile: 07930 332608 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Porter Sent: 04 December 2008 09:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints This is not a mobility list. There are certainly doggy lists out there so why not join those. Perhaps when we get a robotic guide dog then that can be discussed here. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints > No these are big tips. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:13 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints > > >> Sorry you are right there Peter. Are you talking about the golf ball >> type when you say jumbo? I had forgotten about that but then I only have >> one such tip as I rely on my 4 legged friend most of the time. All my >> other canes are the stick in the pavement ones! >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:07 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints >> >> >>>A long cane with a jumbo tip does not get stuck in pavements. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:20 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints >>> >>> >>>> Interesting one Jackie. Now I am of the opposite view point. I hate a >>>> white stick, it gets stuck in the pavement and above all I feel 'blind' >>>> with it. My Guide Dog is my eyes and that is for true. >>>> >>>> Eleanor >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:03 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints >>>> >>>> >>>>> So you wear a heavy coat for the winter, and a lighter one in the >>>>> summer. You have an evening bag to go out somewhere special (least I >>>>> do), and an ordinary bag for day-to-day purposes. Now you need a >>>>> guide >>>>> dog for the city, and perhaps another dog with a different >>>>> temperament >>>>> for more sedate strolls? You're having a laugh!! (chuckle). >>>>> >>>>> Frankly, it's why I would never ever have another guide dog if I were >>>>> paid millions, because there are too many rules and regulations, and >>>>> the >>>>> dog always seems to be right in the eyes of the Association, not the >>>>> owner. I've heard time and again from people that the standard of dog >>>>> training has dropped. Each to their own, of course, but give me the >>>>> white cane any day of the week. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jackie Cairns >>>>> Braille Support Adviser >>>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Sight and Sound Technology >>>>> Welton House North Wing >>>>> Summerhouse Road >>>>> Moulton Park >>>>> Northampton >>>>> NN3 6WD >>>>> Telephone: 01604 798024 >>>>> Fax: 01604 798090 >>>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of Derek Hornby >>>>> Sent: 03 December 2008 11:38 >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints >>>>> >>>>> Hi Andy >>>>> You A did say and I quote: >>>>> >>>>> "each of us are a credit to the organization," >>>>> >>>>> So no problems then! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "So people like me, who have a little peripheral vision, are walking >>>>> about with dogs, which can in a flick of a second, get us killed." >>>>> >>>>> But those people witn no sight at all, must surely be at more risk! >>>>> >>>>> i feel the mista\ke you have made is to make threats. >>>>> I mean you said you: >>>>> >>>>> "Made a lot of noise and threats about seeing a lawyer" >>>>> >>>>> In another post you said you were told: >>>>> >>>>> "it was not quite a good idea to take my dog into Glasgow during the >>>>> festive season stating that the streets were very busy at this time of >>>>> the year." >>>>> >>>>> Well given GDBA said that, I feel that's proof they are taking your >>>>> safety seriously. >>>>> >>>>> If they feel you are not able to manage very busy conditions, they >>>>> will not recommend you do it. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Derek >>>>> >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** 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