[access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints

  • From: "Debbie Palmer" <wadham.house@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:37:45 -0000

Hi

Yes I agree there are guide dog lists and if anyone wants the details please
email me off list.

Thanks

Debbie
 


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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Porter
Sent: 04 December 2008 09:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints

This is not a mobility list. There are certainly doggy lists out there so 
why not join those. Perhaps when we get a robotic guide dog then that can be

discussed here.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints


> No these are big tips.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:13 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints
>
>
>> Sorry you are right there Peter.  Are you talking about the golf ball 
>> type when you say jumbo?  I had forgotten about that but then I only have

>> one such tip as  I rely on my 4 legged friend most of the time.  All my 
>> other canes are the stick in the pavement ones!
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:07 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints
>>
>>
>>>A long cane with a jumbo tip does not get stuck in pavements.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:20 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints
>>>
>>>
>>>> Interesting one Jackie.  Now I am of the opposite view point.  I hate a

>>>> white stick, it gets stuck in the pavement and above all I feel 'blind'

>>>> with it.  My Guide Dog is my eyes and that is for true.
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:03 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So you wear a heavy coat for the winter, and a lighter one in the
>>>>> summer.  You have an evening bag to go out somewhere special (least I
>>>>> do), and an ordinary bag for day-to-day purposes.  Now you need a 
>>>>> guide
>>>>> dog for the city, and perhaps another dog with a  different 
>>>>> temperament
>>>>> for more sedate strolls?  You're having a laugh!! (chuckle).
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly, it's why I would never ever have another guide dog if I were
>>>>> paid millions, because there are too many rules and regulations, and 
>>>>> the
>>>>> dog always seems to be right in the eyes of the Association, not the
>>>>> owner.  I've heard time and again from people that the standard of dog
>>>>> training has dropped.  Each to their own, of course, but give me the
>>>>> white cane any day of the week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Braille Support Adviser
>>>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sight and Sound Technology
>>>>> Welton House North Wing
>>>>> Summerhouse Road
>>>>> Moulton Park
>>>>> Northampton
>>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>>> Telephone: 01604 798024
>>>>> Fax: 01604 798090
>>>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Derek Hornby
>>>>> Sent: 03 December 2008 11:38
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andy
>>>>> You A did say  and I quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "each of us are a credit to  the organization,"
>>>>>
>>>>> So no problems then!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "So people like me, who have a little peripheral vision, are walking
>>>>> about  with dogs, which can in a flick of a second, get us killed."
>>>>>
>>>>> But those people witn  no sight at all, must surely be at more risk!
>>>>>
>>>>> i feel the mista\ke you have made is to make  threats.
>>>>> I mean you  said you:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Made a lot of noise  and threats about seeing a lawyer"
>>>>>
>>>>> In another post you said you were told:
>>>>>
>>>>> "it was not quite a good idea to take my dog into Glasgow during the
>>>>> festive season stating that the streets were very busy at this time of
>>>>> the year."
>>>>>
>>>>> Well given GDBA said that, I feel that's  proof they are taking your
>>>>> safety  seriously.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they feel you are not able  to manage  very busy  conditions, they
>>>>> will not recommend you do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,  Derek
>>>>>
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