Hi David, I agree with you entirely here. As I am total, I can not be visually impaired. That would be like saying if you had your leg cut off, you have a bad leg. Your vision is not impaired, it is not there. But anyone who has sight at all, I feel Vision Impaired or Visually Impaired are OK. Just don't use that awful word handicapped. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Russell Sent: Thursday 6 November 2008 20:30 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Appropriate terminology. Leonie, I'm not sure I really care very much. As I have no sight at all, my vision is not impaired, it is non-existent. I suppose vision impaired is more correct than visually impaired, but phrases like visually challenged are truly dreadful. Blind or partially sighted used to always be regarded as perfectly acceptable and understandable. But, as long as everyone understands what is meant, then that is all that really matters. There are more important things to worry about in life. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: 06 November 2008 20:21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Appropriate terminology. To me they mean the same, however "vision impaired" and "visually impaired" doesn't necessarily indicate they're blind. In theory someone could be "visually impaired" even if they're short sighted and needs glasses for some tasks. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Léonie Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Appropriate terminology. > I'm curious as to people's opinions of the term "vision impaired", > as opposed to "visually impaired", or "blind and partially sighted > people". > It's something I've been meaning to explore for a while, so I'd much > appreciate people's thoughts. Thanks. > Léonie. > > -- > http://www.tink.co.uk/ > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 3592 (20081106) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq