Hi Spider, I agree that knocking IE is counter productive. The builds of Firefox are still beta or and require plug-ins to be fully comparable to IE. IE is much safer in its XPSP2 form which is the beta version to be released later this summer. I have been using IE 98% of the time without problems. I keep it updated/patched, and practice safe surfing, and use many of the spyware removal programs to prevent hijacking and spyware. Mike ~ one of the Moderators It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/ This email was sent from an XP SP 2 protected PC http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/sp2preview.mspx *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 06/07/2004 at 8:49 PM Spider wrote: Lately I have been reading a lot from well intentioned support technicians encouraging people to dump IE in favor of Mozilla or some other type of browser. This has always seemed to me as an unfair attack on Microsoft since the flavor of the posts seem to blame them for the security problems. Microsoft is not the one doing this guys and gals. It's the bad guys. Dumping IE is akin to allowing drug pushers to push us out of a neighborhood. I'd rather take the "no surrender" position. It is my contention that moving to another browser will not stop the attacks. They target Internet Explorer because that is where their target market lives. Trust me, they will go with the flow. They must be defeated not avoided. A look at Security Tracker will illustrate my point. Mozilla is a common alternative mentioned by those that advocate dumping IE. Well, look at the current threats posted on the Mozilla Browser (http://www.securitytracker.com/archives/target/1291.html) and compare them to the current threats posted on Microsoft Internet Explorer (http://www.securitytracker.com/archives/target/49.html) Do you think that Mozilla is a safe alternative? Perhaps safer then IE at the moment, but what happens when Mozilla gets recognized as the "mainstream" browser? My contention is that the ratio of threats to Mozilla will increase and surpass IE. Me, I'm sticking with IE. I happen to like it and Microsoft's response to the problems, they fix the issues as they come up. Now, that is not to discourage someone from using another browser. It's the reason / scare tactics I object to. If another browser trips your trigger then go for it. I dumped Netscape years ago for performance issues. Internet Explorer has always performed well for me. Every now and then I give Netscape / Mozilla another trial run, but I never have found it up to par at least for the way I use a browser. Spider http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1 http://spider1.blogspot.com/ http://erablog.net/blogs/Spider1/ For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.