Joseph Polanik wrote:
J wrote:That where we choose to draw the boundary is arbitrary relative to the existing maths is not to deny that there is a boundary nor yet is it to draw the boundary at the consciousness of the observer. Rather, it is to show that the (current) maths leave such matters undecided.The parenthentical insertions of "current" allude to developments subsequent to von Neumann's text, such as the study of quantum decoherence, which may yet indicate a non-arbitrary way of drawing such a boundary. Or rather, if I understand correctly, how seemingly classical behavior can occur with no such boundary.I think the latter description of the impact of decoherence theory is the more accurate.
Hey Joe (Hendrix, anyone?), speaking of decoherence theory, why would anyone choose to discard the idea that any interaction at all will result in the reduction of superposed states in favor of the idea that only conscious experience will do so? Seems to me that we don't need to entertain the idea that Schrodinger's cat is both alive and dead until we open the box, if it is interacting with air molecules all the time. What is the argument against this? ========================================== Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/