Interesting bird and discussion. Aside from the extensive red, this appeared to be a House Finch to me as well. It's wonderful we all have a list like this were we can discuss things like this in a pleasant, informative discussion! Dave Freriks. Saukville, WI / southern Ohio On Mar 2, 2012 7:20 AM, <korducki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Steve Lubahn and Tom Prestby are both on the records committee as am I for what it's worth. I also think it's a House Finch (HOFI). Steve's photolink shows the key points for Purple Finch (PUFI) that are lacking in the Bong bird. Several have been mentioned but here are some key ones: straight culmen, heavier bill, peaked crown. The color on a PUFI looks like raspberry sauce or jelly rather than the cardinal red of a HOFI. This raspberry color is much more extensive on the birds and extends well onto the back and into the wings. The Bong bird has brown wings. Look at the raspberry wings on Steve's link. I think it was Peterson's guide that described a male PUFI as looking like it was dipped in raspberry jelly. The Bong HOFI is more extensively red than most but the color shade and body features all fit. The House Finches I see on frequent trips to the Texas Hill Country are larger and more extensively red than Midwest birds so there is some intraspecific variation. Mark Korducki, New Berlin Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry® smartphone -----Original Message----- From: "Wayne & Susie" <wsrohde@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sender: wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxx Anyone from the WSO Records Committee care to weigh in on this discussion??? Wayne Rohde Walworth, ... #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn