[visurfacereader] Re: Please pass this around, Logic Pro X accessibility overview draft 5.1

  • From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:45:25 +0100

Hi Bryan,

 

Here you go:

 

By default, Logic receives MIDI from any active MIDI input port. The
exception are ports used in the Control Surfaces setup as the Control
Surface setup is "upstream" from the environment as is not passed thru. The
only place to see and manipulate this traffic is in Logic's MIDI Environment
window. (FYI, that window is only available when "Preferences > Advanced
Tools..." is enabled and the subsequent "MIDI" checkbox is activated.). 

 

Once you have that window open, you go to the Clicks and Ports layer using
the menu found in the Inspector at the left:

 



 

Once there, you'll see the "Physical Input" object which has multiple small
triangles flanking it's left edge. The only one cabled us the top one which
is labeled "Sum".  This is the port which as all MIDI input coming into it
and one of them unfortunately is your virtual port, which is spitting out
(or echoing) Mackie Control data.

 



 

The first way to filter the Surface Reader data is to disconnect the Sum
cable and connect only the port (or ports) you want to be MIDI sources.
Here, I've it's now set to send data only from Port A and Port B.

 



 

The other option is to leave the "Sum" port connected and to cable any port
you don't want to receive data from to a "dead end". The best candidate for
that dead end is a Monitor Object, as you can then also see whether and what
data is coming from that port. A Monitor object can be added by selecting
"Monitor" from the "New" menu;

 



 

This latter route is probably the best way to go - route the physical ports
that the Mackie is connected to so as to send their data to monitor objects
- this should leave SurfaceReader's virtual ports as the only ports handling
surface traffic to/from Logic.

 

I'd be really interested to know how you get on with this.

 

Best wishes.

Tim Burgess

 

From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: 20 August 2014 18:20
To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [visurfacereader] Re: Please pass this around, Logic Pro X
accessibility overview draft 5.1

 

Tim, can you describe the work-around in brief? I don't need details or
hand-holding, but not sure what tweak is needed.

 

I've given up on Mackie Control compatible gear like the ProjectMix and
BCF2000, and now have a real Mackie Control Universal Pro. Also dumping my
BCR2000 for a Mackie C4. Of the other low-cost surfaces, only the
ProjectMix, and perhaps the FW1884, are close to the MCU's construction
quality. Of course, the ProjectMix and FW1884 are old products with horrible
Mac support now, so not good options, anyway.

 

For others on the list that might be curious about the differences, the MCU
has more dedicated buttons for functions than any of the other units that I
listed. The MCU Pro is also significantly more compact than they are.
Finally, the jog wheel on the MCU Pro is beefier, has a bit of weighted
inertia to it, and has an all-around better feel to it than the ones that
I've used on the ProjectMix and FW1884. The other Mackie Control compatible
units always seem to cut some corner or another, even if a small one, and it
is nice to finally have the real deal.


Bryan

 

 

 

On Aug 19, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Hi,

There's currently a problem when trying to use SurfaceReader with Logic. The
Logic development team have a copy of the application and I'm waiting to
hear some suggestions. There is a way around, but it's dependent on you
having sighted help to set it up, so this is obviously unsatisfactory.

I'll post back on this as soon as I have something more constructive to add.

Best wishes.
Tim Burgess

-----Original Message-----
From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ramy moustafa
Sent: 19 August 2014 19:00
To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [visurfacereader] Re: Please pass this around, Logic Pro X
accessibility overview draft 5.1

What version i must use from logic?

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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On May 22, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi folks,

This is now on line at,

http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/Logic%20With%20Vo
iceover/LogicProXAccessibilityOverviewdraft5_1.shtml




Just a change in drag and drop loops.

This is as far as I will take the overview.  I think if one reads the

users guide they will get along fine.



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