I have helped several people with it, and I can tell you that those who have it, whom I have met really love it. There is no better phone in terms of accessibility other than the smart phones. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Gmail To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:09 PM Subject: [vi-android] Re: Recently new member I totally agree Jeanie, Glen I’m not sure where you are getting your information from my good sir but, your wrong. I fiancé used a haven. The menus do talk, you can text, but when you dive into say the contacts menu, try to find a contact and try to look up the number that doesn’t read. The stopwatch doesn’t read. Long texts that are sent in maybe 2 or 3 messages don’t read. So, therefore its’ not accessible. truly accessible would mean everything speaks not just parts here and parts there. just an FYI. Hoping I don’t come across as mean but, I know my tech and that phone sucks nuts compared to what you can get out of an iOS or android device today. Heck even a android phone running gingerbread 3.2 works a lot better than a haven. any blind person with any common sense never purchase a haven please, for the love of God don’, you will regret your decision I promise you that. Thanks, Aaron Linson Indescribable Studios Being Confident in your ability, not your disability On May 23, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Jeanie Vejil <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks. I know lots of people love the Haven, but I really don't even care for its voice. I think I'll stick to my current phone for as long as it lasts. Jeanie On Friday 5/23/2014 08:46 PM, Glenn wrote: You can get a like-new Samsung Haven from: http://www.atguies.com/ I think they have them at 65 dollars, and they set them up to speak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanie Vejil" <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 5:39 PM Subject: [vi-android] Recently new member Hi everyone. I want to thank each and every one on list who sent me helpful hints concerning smart phones. AS it turned out, I had ordered a smart phone from VZW Corporate as it wasn't available in the store near me. The phone appears to be defective, and since I've had it past the 14 day worry free guarantee through no fault of my own as it didn't get to me when it should have thanks to Fed Ex, I cannot return it to Corporate. The phone will be handled through the retail store I visited today, and I will pick out a basic phone I can deal with, smile! I wish I knew how so many of you are able to work with iPhones and/or smart phones. This one was a Samsung Galaxy S III Mini. I have used an LG VX8300 flip phone for several years, and I don't quite know what to upgrade to as there aren't many basic phones left on the market. If anyone has some ideas or knowledge about a good basic phone in case my 8300 decides to crater, I'd appreciate the input. Thanks again for all of your help. Jeanie To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. To unsubscribe from the list send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) To receive the list as a digest, send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the subject (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' in the subject). To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. To unsubscribe from the list send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) To receive the list as a digest, send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the subject (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' in the subject). To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. To unsubscribe from the list send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) To receive the list as a digest, send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the subject (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' in the subject).