Dean, That's good stuff. I think your probably right, but I need to research this some more. Maybe some others will weigh in on this I.D. Thanks, Larry > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:02:28 -0400 > From: kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [tn-moths] Re: I.D. request > > > Larry, > > Like Merrill points out, the Eupithecias can be very difficult to > tell apart by sight. But given the date and especially the somewhat > long forewings, this looks like Eupithecia matheri (7509.1). There > is difference in wing length between males and females and I often > find longer- and shorter-winged ones at the same time. Later in > spring I tend to find Eupithecia with shorter, more rounded forewings > that I've tenatively called Commons. I've got some photos of E. matheri > online at > > http://www-chaos.engr.utk.edu/~kde/leps/species/Geometridae/Larentiinae/7509.1/7509.1.html > > Also see James Adams' site (he confirmed mine a few years ago): > > http://www.daltonstate.edu/galeps/ > > Dean Edwards > Knoxville, TN > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Larry McDaniel wrote: > > > > > I sent these two to BugGuide I.D. Request. > > > > > > > > One may be Adana Tip Moth - Hodges#2877 (Rhyacionia adana) 3-18-10. > > > > One may be Common Eupithecia - Hodges#7474 (Eupithecia miserulata) 3-18-10. > > > > > > > > They came to my porch light in Johnson City, TN (Washington County). > > > > > > > > Larry McDaniel > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2