[THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
- From: "Henry Sieff" <hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:21:36 -0500
Oh yeah, one more thing: don't run anything else on this server, because
it will blue screen once in a while. Basically, whenever a developer
wants to crash your server, they will be able to.
--
Henry Sieff
Network Engineer
ph. 504-620-3420
mob. 504-931-4638
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:09 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
>
> I run a server with this for a development team of about 16,
> but rarely do we see more than 4-6 users at a time. I saw
> performance degradation when I had 10 users compile a large
> app at the same time, but its been pretty stable and that
> useage pattern isn't normal, so I would feel pretty confident
> putting 20 or so users on there doing normal development,
> anything more and things may get interesting because the IDE
> is very inefficient for running apps.
>
> I would strongly recommend, if you plan on pushing it to 20
> users and beyond, that you use a CPU and/or memory
> optimization package like tscale or armtech because your
> developers will starve each other and the OS.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/academic/techdown/techprod/netframew
> ork/devsys
> /devsysws03/default.aspx is a link to a bunch of stuff about
> doing just this.
>
> Permissions can be hard - for some tasks (debugging asp.net apps in
> IIS5) they need to be local admins (whidbey is supposed to
> fix this problem). I simply use a runas and set up a local
> admin which they run the app as once they log in if they need
> to do this. When I migrate this to Win2k3, I can use II6
> which allows me to give each developer their own app pool
> which runs as them, and then they can debug to their hearts content.
>
> Sysinternals is crucial since when they aren't running as
> local admin they still need extra perms to HKCR, et al.
>
> Oh, and take images a lot, since at some point a third party
> control will get installed that will fuxor everything.
>
> SourceSafe (I assume that's what you mean) was very easy and
> runs great.
> VS.NET is tougher, but as long as you are willing to spend
> some time tweaking registry permissions and take steps to
> control changes (third party control installation etc.) it
> can be pretty stable.
>
> --
> Henry Sieff
> Network Engineer
> ph. 504-620-3420
> mob. 504-931-4638
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > elliot.stapleton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:15 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Visual Studio .NET
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > has anyone had the wodnerful experience of trying to get multiple
> > users over Citrix (PS3) using Visual Studio .NET and Secure
> Safe? I am
> > trying to establish a baseline for a "potential" figure for
> the number
> > of users per box at the moment. (Dell 2850/ twin zeon/ 4gb ram) etc
> > etc
> >
> > Anyone have any experience of running this application over
> Citrix at
> > all ?
> >
> > can't find much info anywhere at the moment except along
> the lines of
> > "you must be mad" :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Elliot
> >
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