I run a server with this for a development team of about 16, but rarely do we see more than 4-6 users at a time. I saw performance degradation when I had 10 users compile a large app at the same time, but its been pretty stable and that useage pattern isn't normal, so I would feel pretty confident putting 20 or so users on there doing normal development, anything more and things may get interesting because the IDE is very inefficient for running apps. I would strongly recommend, if you plan on pushing it to 20 users and beyond, that you use a CPU and/or memory optimization package like tscale or armtech because your developers will starve each other and the OS. http://msdn.microsoft.com/academic/techdown/techprod/netframework/devsys /devsysws03/default.aspx is a link to a bunch of stuff about doing just this. Permissions can be hard - for some tasks (debugging asp.net apps in IIS5) they need to be local admins (whidbey is supposed to fix this problem). I simply use a runas and set up a local admin which they run the app as once they log in if they need to do this. When I migrate this to Win2k3, I can use II6 which allows me to give each developer their own app pool which runs as them, and then they can debug to their hearts content. Sysinternals is crucial since when they aren't running as local admin they still need extra perms to HKCR, et al. Oh, and take images a lot, since at some point a third party control will get installed that will fuxor everything. SourceSafe (I assume that's what you mean) was very easy and runs great. 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