[THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

  • From: "Evan Mann" <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:31:33 -0400

This isn't Citrix related, by VMWare.  I'm going to be going to hosting
my own DNS and was looking at using VMWare ESX to give me 4 DNS servers
on 1 box to at least give me some OS redundancy.  I'd also have another
box to have physical machine redundancy.

My question is this, what kind of minimum power would I need to run 2
VM's on of Windows 2003 with DNS running?  These machines would really
do nothing else services wise by DNS.  CPU and memory wise.

I'd probably do 2 copies of ESX, 2 machines, 2 VM's per machine, giving
me 4 DNS "Servers" total.

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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Parker, Dennis
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:49 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

My user base isn't that large, so I am going to spread the load over
more hardware by using ESX.  I plan to use dual proc systems, but only
dedicate one proc to Citrix and the other to smaller, low use systems.
In the long run I will save $ hardware costs, not to mention the
recoverability aspects of VMs opposed to real hardware.  I'm not
advocating one solution over another in any other environment, this is
just what seems to make for mine.
I didn't agree with this solution just 6 months ago, but with ESX 2.1
and Virtual Center, I can see real benefits.

I'm glad others have seen some benefit from my post as well.  At least I
know I'm not alone in looking at this. =20

Sorry, I don't have pricing info, I haven't been involved in that
yet...I just install and make it work.=20

Dennis Parker, MCSE, CCA
Senior Systems Analyst
Fiserv EFT
4550 SW Macadam Ave, Ste 100
Portland, Or. 97239
Direct: 503-274-6785
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:36 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing


We get 60 users running Office 2000/Outlook on our 700 mhz dl380's with
4 gig of ram (they are quads of course though) Seems to me that for the
price of ram or an extra processor you could get more users for the same
amount that you pay for vmware....
JK

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Parker, Dennis
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX testing


Just thought I would share this with the list.  I have been testing
VMWare ESX and Citrix MetaFrame.

For those that are interested, I have a Citrix server running on a
Windows Server 2003.  Citrix has the Citrix Server Testing Kit (CSTK)
that I have up and running.  Using this kit, I have been able to
simulate connections to this server.

Here are the results:

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All references to Office Products mean Office 2000.

These tests may not exactly equate to real world work because all
connections are performing work all the time, nobody ever takes a break
or sits and reads the latest joke in email.

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128M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM
13 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps (Command prompt,
terminal services admin, task manager, etc) before they started having
issues.

(RAM was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM
23 total user connections before issues
15 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps
8 users running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - hyper-threading enabled in the VM 30
total connections with no issues - probably could get more but I didn't
have it configured 20 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps
10 users running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

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