[THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

  • From: "Pardee, Michael P." <MPardee@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:55:48 -0400

Dennis, couldn't agree with you more.  6 months ago I had no interest.  2.1,
ESX, Vmotion, etc. was what drew our attention.  I am extremely interested
in the disaster recover aspects of this.  Between this and some things we
are working on with the SAN, I hope to recover us in hours instead of days
as we move forward. 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Parker, Dennis
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:49 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

My user base isn't that large, so I am going to spread the load over more
hardware by using ESX.  I plan to use dual proc systems, but only dedicate
one proc to Citrix and the other to smaller, low use systems.  In the long
run I will save $ hardware costs, not to mention the recoverability aspects
of VMs opposed to real hardware.  I'm not advocating one solution over
another in any other environment, this is just what seems to make for mine.
I didn't agree with this solution just 6 months ago, but with ESX 2.1 and
Virtual Center, I can see real benefits.

I'm glad others have seen some benefit from my post as well.  At least I
know I'm not alone in looking at this.  

Sorry, I don't have pricing info, I haven't been involved in that yet...I
just install and make it work. 

Dennis Parker, MCSE, CCA
Senior Systems Analyst
Fiserv EFT
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:36 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing


We get 60 users running Office 2000/Outlook on our 700 mhz dl380's with 4
gig of ram (they are quads of course though) Seems to me that for the price
of ram or an extra processor you could get more users for the same amount
that you pay for vmware....
JK

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Parker, Dennis
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX testing


Just thought I would share this with the list.  I have been testing VMWare
ESX and Citrix MetaFrame.

For those that are interested, I have a Citrix server running on a Windows
Server 2003.  Citrix has the Citrix Server Testing Kit (CSTK) that I have up
and running.  Using this kit, I have been able to simulate connections to
this server.

Here are the results:

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All references to Office Products mean Office 2000.

These tests may not exactly equate to real world work because all
connections are performing work all the time, nobody ever takes a break or
sits and reads the latest joke in email.

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128M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM
13 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps (Command prompt,
terminal services admin, task manager, etc) before they started having
issues.

(RAM was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM
23 total user connections before issues
15 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps
8 users running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - hyper-threading enabled in the VM 30
total connections with no issues - probably could get more but I didn't have
it configured 20 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 10 users
running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

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