[THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

  • From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:53:58 -0700

> what is/are the major driving factors to use Vmware for MetaFrame?

Reducing the number of servers and Disaster recovery. The project we did
recently was to support a smallish farm that needed to be immediately
recoverable at an off site location. Since we recommended a dedicated =
data
collector, WI and multiple application servers the use of VMWare allowed =
us
to provide these dedicated roles on two pieces of hardware instead of =
five.
In addition, the VM disk images can be replicated off-site and brought =
up
very quickly in the event of the loss of the main data center

Steve=20

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
Of Robert K Coffman Jr - Info From Data Corporation
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

Dennis,

Thanks for the info.  I'm running (currently) four virtual machines on =
ESX,
two in test, two in production.  Because VMWare does not support SMP on =
NT,
I've throttled the load balancing to roughly 3/4ths the number of users =
we
get on a single physical dual proc box.  We haven't maxed the box out =
yet.
I'll let you know when we do, along with the specs and total number of =
users
we are supporting on our quad ESX box.

- Bob Coffman



-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Parker, Dennis
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX testing


Just thought I would share this with the list.  I have been testing =
VMWare
ESX and Citrix MetaFrame.

For those that are interested, I have a Citrix server running on a =
Windows
Server 2003.  Citrix has the Citrix Server Testing Kit (CSTK) that I =
have up
and running.  Using this kit, I have been able to simulate connections =
to
this server.

Here are the results:

---

All references to Office Products mean Office 2000.

These tests may not exactly equate to real world work because all
connections are performing work all the time, nobody ever takes a break =
or
sits and reads the latest joke in email.

---

128M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM =
13
users running Excel, Word and administrative apps (Command prompt, =
terminal
services admin, task manager, etc) before they started having issues.

(RAM was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM =
23
total user connections before issues 15 users running Excel, Word and
administrative apps 8 users running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - hyper-threading enabled in the VM 30
total connections with no issues - probably could get more but I didn't =
have
it configured 20 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 10 =
users
running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

---

For what it's worth, in our current environment, which I have not run =
these
tests, I am happy to be able to get 30 users on a NT 4.0 TSE server with
4Gig RAM and dual 1.14ghz processors.


Dennis Parker, MCSE, CCA
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Fiserv EFT
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