> what is/are the major driving factors to use Vmware for MetaFrame? Reducing the number of servers and Disaster recovery. The project we did recently was to support a smallish farm that needed to be immediately recoverable at an off site location. Since we recommended a dedicated = data collector, WI and multiple application servers the use of VMWare allowed = us to provide these dedicated roles on two pieces of hardware instead of = five. In addition, the VM disk images can be replicated off-site and brought = up very quickly in the event of the loss of the main data center Steve=20 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Robert K Coffman Jr - Info From Data Corporation Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:39 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing Dennis, Thanks for the info. I'm running (currently) four virtual machines on = ESX, two in test, two in production. Because VMWare does not support SMP on = NT, I've throttled the load balancing to roughly 3/4ths the number of users = we get on a single physical dual proc box. We haven't maxed the box out = yet. I'll let you know when we do, along with the specs and total number of = users we are supporting on our quad ESX box. - Bob Coffman -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Parker, Dennis Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:24 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX testing Just thought I would share this with the list. I have been testing = VMWare ESX and Citrix MetaFrame. For those that are interested, I have a Citrix server running on a = Windows Server 2003. Citrix has the Citrix Server Testing Kit (CSTK) that I = have up and running. Using this kit, I have been able to simulate connections = to this server. Here are the results: --- All references to Office Products mean Office 2000. These tests may not exactly equate to real world work because all connections are performing work all the time, nobody ever takes a break = or sits and reads the latest joke in email. --- 128M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM = 13 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps (Command prompt, = terminal services admin, task manager, etc) before they started having issues. (RAM was the bottleneck) 512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM = 23 total user connections before issues 15 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 8 users running Excel and Access (Processor was the bottleneck) 512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - hyper-threading enabled in the VM 30 total connections with no issues - probably could get more but I didn't = have it configured 20 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 10 = users running Excel and Access (Processor was the bottleneck) --- For what it's worth, in our current environment, which I have not run = these tests, I am happy to be able to get 30 users on a NT 4.0 TSE server with 4Gig RAM and dual 1.14ghz processors. Dennis Parker, MCSE, CCA Senior Systems Analyst Fiserv EFT 4550 SW Macadam Ave, Ste 100 Portland, Or. 97239 Direct: 503-274-6785 Fax: 503-274-6619 This e-mail is confidential and may well be legally privileged. 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