[THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing

  • From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:28:44 -0700

Esx server is $1850 per host CPU with a required support and service per =
CPU
of $ $394

Normally you would run this on duals, quads or higher

Also, I would recommend the SMP option which allows quest OS to use =
multiple
CPU's which is $1250 per 2 CPU with service and support of $263


We have had great results with a recent client XP farm running in =
production
under VMWare. The customer has a dedicated data collector and three
metaframe application servers running alongside some other light duty
servers they need in their environment- all on two HP DL 380's. So they =
are
running, with no loss of performance, 6 servers on two physical servers.

However, VMWare will not gain you raw performance on the same hardware. =
It
makes sense when you have underutilized servers and can consolidate them
together and save on hardware, space and maintenance by virtualizing =
them.=20


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax=20
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
Of Luchette, Jon
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:28 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing


Can somebody give me a ballpark price for the latest VMWARE ESX?  I mean
ballpark, I literally have NO idea what we are talking here...

Thanks,

/jL

-----Original Message-----
From: Parker, Dennis [mailto:Dennis.Parker@xxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX testing

Just thought I would share this with the list.  I have been testing =
VMWare
ESX and Citrix MetaFrame. =20

For those that are interested, I have a Citrix server running on a =
Windows
Server 2003.  Citrix has the Citrix Server Testing Kit (CSTK) that I =
have up
and running.  Using this kit, I have been able to simulate connections =
to
this server. =20

Here are the results:

---

All references to Office Products mean Office 2000. =20

These tests may not exactly equate to real world work because all
connections are performing work all the time, nobody ever takes a break =
or
sits and reads the latest joke in email.

---

128M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM =
13
users running Excel, Word and administrative apps (Command prompt, =
terminal
services admin, task manager, etc) before they started having issues.

(RAM was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM =
23
total user connections before issues=20
15 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps
8 users running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - hyper-threading enabled in the VM 30
total connections with no issues - probably could get more but I didn't =
have
it configured 20 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 10 =
users
running Excel and Access

(Processor was the bottleneck)

---

For what it's worth, in our current environment, which I have not run =
these
tests, I am happy to be able to get 30 users on a NT 4.0 TSE server with
4Gig RAM and dual 1.14ghz processors.


Dennis Parker, MCSE, CCA
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