Esx server is $1850 per host CPU with a required support and service per = CPU of $ $394 Normally you would run this on duals, quads or higher Also, I would recommend the SMP option which allows quest OS to use = multiple CPU's which is $1250 per 2 CPU with service and support of $263 We have had great results with a recent client XP farm running in = production under VMWare. The customer has a dedicated data collector and three metaframe application servers running alongside some other light duty servers they need in their environment- all on two HP DL 380's. So they = are running, with no loss of performance, 6 servers on two physical servers. However, VMWare will not gain you raw performance on the same hardware. = It makes sense when you have underutilized servers and can consolidate them together and save on hardware, space and maintenance by virtualizing = them.=20 Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax=20 steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Luchette, Jon Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:28 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX testing Can somebody give me a ballpark price for the latest VMWARE ESX? I mean ballpark, I literally have NO idea what we are talking here... Thanks, /jL -----Original Message----- From: Parker, Dennis [mailto:Dennis.Parker@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:24 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX testing Just thought I would share this with the list. I have been testing = VMWare ESX and Citrix MetaFrame. =20 For those that are interested, I have a Citrix server running on a = Windows Server 2003. Citrix has the Citrix Server Testing Kit (CSTK) that I = have up and running. Using this kit, I have been able to simulate connections = to this server. =20 Here are the results: --- All references to Office Products mean Office 2000. =20 These tests may not exactly equate to real world work because all connections are performing work all the time, nobody ever takes a break = or sits and reads the latest joke in email. --- 128M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM = 13 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps (Command prompt, = terminal services admin, task manager, etc) before they started having issues. (RAM was the bottleneck) 512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - no hyper-threading enabled in the VM = 23 total user connections before issues=20 15 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 8 users running Excel and Access (Processor was the bottleneck) 512M RAM - Single 3ghz processor - hyper-threading enabled in the VM 30 total connections with no issues - probably could get more but I didn't = have it configured 20 users running Excel, Word and administrative apps 10 = users running Excel and Access (Processor was the bottleneck) --- For what it's worth, in our current environment, which I have not run = these tests, I am happy to be able to get 30 users on a NT 4.0 TSE server with 4Gig RAM and dual 1.14ghz processors. Dennis Parker, MCSE, CCA Senior Systems Analyst Fiserv EFT 4550 SW Macadam Ave, Ste 100 Portland, Or. 97239 Direct: 503-274-6785 Fax: 503-274-6619 =20 This e-mail is confidential and may well be legally privileged. 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