[THIN] Re: Softricity
- From: Cláudio Rodrigues <Claudio.Rodrigues@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:32:55 -0500
I tried and I agree with you Doug. It is a VERY polished product with pretty
much all the features available on Presentation Server 4.0. Even Virtual IP
is there. I am sure a huge percentage of existing Citrix customers could
easily live with Provision Networks.
I even posted about this on my blog at http://www.msterminalservices.org
<http://www.msterminalservices.org/> . :-)
Cláudio Rodrigues
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Terminal Services
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:07 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Softricity
Now that is a good subject. Has anyone else tried or uses Provision
Networks? They do not only seamless applications but they have true USB
sync and many other killer features. In some ways, it is more feature rich
than Citrix, or at least relevant features for today?s world. I?m very
impressed with their solution. Very!
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: 941.922.0454
Fax: 941.827.9073
E-mail: <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kerr
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 12:01 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Softricity
Provision Networks can do seamless apps fine. In the last 2 weeks I've come
across 2 customers using Provision. You might want to check them out.
----- Original Message -----
From: M <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Softricity
I would love to know if they will work properly though.
I dont recall reading any post about seamless apps and other vendors.
This either suggests there arent many people who use other vendors, these
vendors have zero issues or Citrix have got things badly
wrong compared with other vendors.
Im not 100% certain how easy it will be for MS. Cant wait to try some
borland apps, Lotus Notes and a few other choice packages running seamlessly
with Vista :¬)
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Watts <mailto:greg.watts@xxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:14 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Softricity
A few companies offer seamless Windows now via RDP (Provisional Network,
Sun?s Global Desktop) so my guess this should be real easy for MS.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of M
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:03 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Softricity
Bit o/t but the Vista comment was interesting.
Im itching to see how Microsoft deal with Seamless Apps
Citrix have been continiously working on such issues for many years now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Shonk <mailto:joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:42 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Softricity
What about vista makes Citrix irrelevant? Citrix will be coming out with
their own version of Softgrid soon (For TS and Fat Clients alike). This
includes a better deliver mechanism (AIE had none) for delivering the
application.
Also, what is your purpose in virtualizing the applications? Is it because
of delivery? Application conflicts?
Softgrid is the best of breed... And even when Citrix comes out with their
version, Citrix will have to go through the whole learning curve on what it
means to isolate the applications. One of the drawbacks we found with
Softgrid is it Isolates the application too much and the lack of management
tools (Managing user profile/cache size is non-existance) AIE suffers from
lack of deployment tools as well as the profile issue. It isolates too much
in some areas and not enough in others. I like that AIE can redirect, not
just isolate the files/folders and you can choose to install the application
normal and run it isolated, or you can install it in an isolated
environment. Which were you trying with IM?
Either way, prepare get into it pretty deep. Troubleshooting and gettings
things working can get pretty technical and required an indepth
understanding of what softgrid/AIE can/cannot do.
Joe
On 3/8/06, Charles Watts <greg.watts@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
We have been evaluating Softricity in our TS environment and basically
really like the idea of Virtualizing our applications. We have tested about
a dozen apps and with a little tweaking seem to be working fine. We have
looked at AIE from Citrix but had a bunch of problems especially coming up
with packages that would need to be deployed via IM. Plus with Vista we
might be closer to not using Citrix so we are not leaning towards making
Citrix our Application Virtualization standard. I just wanted to know before
we make the final investment with Softricity If anyone else is using it and
what have been your experiences. Good ? Bad? It sucks? What apps will not
work? Best practices?
Thanks,
Greg Watts
GTSI Corp.
202-231-8055
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