[THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

  • From: "Landin, Mark" <Mark.Landin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:45:56 -0500

Right. Although, if you aren't BOOTING from SAN, then you must be using
local disk for your OS, swap, etc. In that case, what are you using the
SAN disks for? Unless you have truly GIGANTIC application suites, I
don't see why non-booting-SAN for Citrix would make sense.


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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:30 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
        
        
        right but my point is that he was saying that "booting from san"
would cost you more than just using the san for other disks which I
don't agree with.  you would need the adaptors either way...
         
        the concept of booting from san doesn't cost you anything as
compared to normal use of the san on a server.
         
         
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        Emerson Hospital
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Matheis
        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:26 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
        
        
        You still need 2 adapters (for redundancy) per server, plus SAN
ports, usually there is management software associated with the SAN
which is licensed per connection, etc....  This person is problem
referring to all of the overall costs that add about $5k or more each
time you hook a device up.  
         

        Thanks 

        Jeff Matheis 
        Kimball International, Inc. 
        812-482-8302 
        jmathei@xxxxxxxxxxx 

         

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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:14 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
        
        
        well you really don't need more disk to boot from SAN than you
would if you were just using the SAN for regular storage.  especially
for citrix, you don't need alot of disk for citrix boxes...
         
         
        _______________________________________________
        Jon Luchette
        
        Emerson Hospital
        Technology Specialist III
        
        Work: 978-287-3369
        Cell:  978-360-1379

        jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        _______________________________________________

         
         

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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eldon
        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:59 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
        
        
        my understanding is that it was disk cost - the # of spindles
needing to be allocated, multiplied by the number of servers booting
from SAN.....
        
        
        On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

                right, what is he talking about. because if he is
talking about the hba's then that is not specific to booting from the
san, but just something that you will need if you want to use your san
at all...? 
                 
                what is he talking about?
                
                 
                 
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                Jon Luchette
                
                Emerson Hospital
                Technology Specialist III
                
                Work: 978-287-3369
                Cell:  978-360-1379

                jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                _______________________________________________

                 
                 

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                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark 
                Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:23 AM
                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
                
                 
                
                What cost does he associate with boot-from-SAN?


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                        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eldon 
                        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:13 AM
                        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [THIN] SAN Benefits for Citrix
                        
                         
                        My organization just installed an EMC SAN and I
was thinking how I could use it to benefit my current (XP FR3) and
future (upgrading to PS 4) environment.  How can I use the SAN to
enhance my Citrix deployment (currently 15 servers, 250 concurrent
users, hardware become outdated and soon needs replacement)?  I was told
by our SAN Admin that booting new servers from the SAN would probably be
cost prohibitive. 


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