[THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

  • From: "Luchette, Jon" <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:39:09 -0400

i agree with that.  you are limited as to the local drives that come in
blades.  many will only have ide drives available so the peformance
benefits from FC disks are significant...
 
 
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:31 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix


I've seen many orgs do this with the older blades strictly because of
the IDE drivers that were in use.  They were getting better performance
from the SAN vs the local IDE drives.
 

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On 7/19/06, Eldon <u2htdaab@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        on a related note, for those organizations that are using Blades
for TS\Citrix, are a majority using local blade disks rather than boot
from SAN?
        
        
        On 7/19/06, Jeff Pitsch < jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: 
        

                while I agree with what your saying the fact is is that
if you are implementing a SAN most servers are probably going to have
HBA's in them already whether it's for backup or disk access.  If your
implementing EMC SAN's then feasible and economical aren't usually
something they are necessarily worried about. 
                
                 

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                On 7/19/06, Landin, Mark < Mark.Landin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:Mark.Landin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: 

                        "Cost prohibitive" is a subjective measure and
varies by company. Yes, many places do it. That doesn't mean it's
feasible or economical in every organization. 


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                        there are so many organizations doing boot from
SAN that truly doubt it is cost prohibitive.  
                         

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                        On 7/19/06, Eldon < u2htdaab@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:u2htdaab@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: 
                        

                                my understanding is that it was disk
cost - the # of spindles needing to be allocated, multiplied by the
number of servers booting from SAN.....
                                
                                
                                
                                On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon <
JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: 

                                right, what is he talking about. because
if he is talking about the hba's then that is not specific to booting
from the san, but just something that you will need if you want to use
your san at all...? 
                                 
                                what is he talking about?
                                
                                 
                                 
        
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                                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf
Of Landin, Mark 
                                Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:23 AM
                                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for
Citrix
                                
                                 
                                
                                What cost does he associate with
boot-from-SAN?


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                                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf
Of Eldon 
                                Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:13 AM
                                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Subject: [THIN] SAN Benefits for Citrix
                                
                                 
                                My organization just installed an EMC
SAN and I was thinking how I could use it to benefit my current (XP FR3)
and future (upgrading to PS 4) environment.  How can I use the SAN to
enhance my Citrix deployment (currently 15 servers, 250 concurrent
users, hardware become outdated and soon needs replacement)?  I was told
by our SAN Admin that booting new servers from the SAN would probably be
cost prohibitive. 





         


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