[THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

  • From: "Rick Mack" <Rick.Mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:30:14 +1000

Hi,
 
There is just no way you can justify a boot off SAN scenario unless money is no 
object and your DR scenario is based around replicated boot disk images. 
 
Throw in the fact that it's a non-Microsoft supported configuration and that 
it's likely to be slower than fast (15K)local disks and you might come to the 
conclusion that maybe it's not the way to go.
 
I'm not saying that you can't do some interesting stuff with a SAN, but if 
we're going to look at terminal servers as an application delivery appliance, 
which is what they are, then making them too complex from a technology 
viewpoint just doesn't make sense.
 
regards,
 
Rick
 
Ulrich Mack 
Volante Systems 


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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Andrew Wood
Sent: Thu 20/07/2006 0:28
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix


if you were starting from scratch maybe, but if you've already invested in the 
SAN hardware then perhaps not.

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Joe Shonk
Sent: 19 July 2006 15:15
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix


But for Citrix?  Really, what is the benefit when compared to the overall cost 
to implement?  There are alternative technologies out there that can provide 
the same benefits for a fraction of the cost.

Joe


On 7/19/06, Jeff Pitsch <jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        there are so many organizations doing boot from SAN that truly doubt it 
is cost prohibitive.  
        
         

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        On 7/19/06, Eldon < u2htdaab@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:u2htdaab@xxxxxxxxx> > 
wrote: 

                my understanding is that it was disk cost - the # of spindles 
needing to be allocated, multiplied by the number of servers booting from 
SAN.....
                
                
                
                On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon < JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: 

                        right, what is he talking about. because if he is 
talking about the hba's then that is not specific to booting from the san, but 
just something that you will need if you want to use your san at all...? 
                         
                        what is he talking about?
                        
                         
                         
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                        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: 
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of 
Landin, Mark 
                        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:23 AM
                        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
                        
                         
                        
                        What cost does he associate with boot-from-SAN?


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                                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: 
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of 
Eldon 
                                Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:13 AM
                                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Subject: [THIN] SAN Benefits for Citrix
                                
                                 
                                My organization just installed an EMC SAN and I 
was thinking how I could use it to benefit my current (XP FR3) and future 
(upgrading to PS 4) environment.  How can I use the SAN to enhance my Citrix 
deployment (currently 15 servers, 250 concurrent users, hardware become 
outdated and soon needs replacement)?  I was told by our SAN Admin that booting 
new servers from the SAN would probably be cost prohibitive. 





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