[TechAssist] Re: More help needed -GE JVM140H Range hood Spacemaker 1400 No heat.
- From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:19:12 -0400
Not to be flippant....but if the timer continues to run when door is
opened you are either looking a bad Micro switch or a Relay on the ESR
board that is welded shut. And even at that most micro's are programmed
just for that possibility.
One other possibility...bad microprocessor, (doubtful and rare),
and if that's the case, put the screws back and mark it NWR.
-Ed-
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
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From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger G
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 4:03 PM
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: More help needed -GE JVM140H Range hood
Spacemaker 1400 No heat.
Thanx for the replies but-
If the diode were bad, I would not get Microwave energy when powering
the
transformer with 110v as evidenced by test light (fluorescent tube)
glowing.
Plus with the timer continuing to run when the door is opened -
something
else is going on.
The microswitches have molded connectors and only go on one way. The
symptoms remained the same unfortunately.
At 10:28 AM 7/3/2004, you wrote:
>I have also seen the hv diode cause the same thing the ones I have seen
the
>diode ck's good but was bad and I had no heat
>
>Chuck Staples
>Staples TV
>Phippsburg Maine 04562
>
>hivotls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <gulftech@xxxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:53 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: More help needed -GE JVM140H Range hood
Spacemaker
>1400 No heat.
>
>
> > Roger,
> >
> > You said you changed the three microswitches. I think you said the
> > symptom changed when you did that. I can't help but wonder if I
wired it
> > wrong, or used an N.O. switch in place of an N.C. contact switch.
Most
> > of those microwaves came with a wiring diagram. Sound like you need
to
> > find one.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > Ken Smith
> > Gulf Technical Services
> > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 00:20:39 -0400 Roger G <rogerfixit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > writes:
> > > Hi Pete-
> > > To answer your questions -
> > > I am getting Hi voltage when I connect the Xformer to 110v so all
> > > HiV
> > > components are OK.
> > > Filament winding is on main Xformer.
> > > The front ckt bd has 5 small relays, one medium sized and one
large
> > > one.
> > > The relays are marked for function - like Vent- On/Off; Light -
> > > bright;
> > > light night etc. This is an over the range unit with light and
vent.
> > > One relay (small) is marked Main and this is the one that clicks
> > > when
> > > Microwave Start button is pressed.
> > > All the small relays are the same so I swapped out the Main with
> > > another -
> > > no better.
> > >
> > > This is what happens -
> > > Set time cook - hit Start. Unit starts up but no heat.
> > > If I open the door, fan stops, light comes on BUT timer keeps
> > > counting
> > > down !!
> > > If I close the door, power starts up without having to hit
START
> > > - still
> > > no heat.
> > > If the door is open when the time runs out, a relay clicks.
> > > If the door is closed, beeper beeps and shows END.
> > >
> > > As mentioned, timer keeps running down even when door is opened.
> > > START
> > > button is also the PAUSE button.
> > > Tried hitting the Start/Pause button during cycle - relay would
> > > click and
> > > timer would stop.
> > > 99% sure it is NOT a microswitch interlock.
> > > The coil of the Main relay goes thru some transistors which I
figure
> > > are
> > > controlled by the microprocessor. The Xistors are marked C815-Y
and
> > > R1005.
> > > I can swap the R1005 with another on the board but C815 is the
only
> > > one.
> > > The C815-y crosses to a NTE289A.
> > > The R1005 crosses to
> > > NTE Device Number: NTE5404
> > > SCR-200 VRM,0.8A,TO-92.
> > >
> > > Now if the SCR is locking up, wouldn't this keep the relay
> > > activated??
> > >
> > > The only other thing I can figure is that the CPU is not getting
the
> > > signal
> > > to open the relay and pause the timer when the door is opened.
> > >
> > > Thanx for your time
> > > Roger
> > > > > Mr. Fix-It
> > > > > Harrisburg, PA 17110 WebSite- http://mrfixit.netfirms.com
> > > > > rogerfixit@xxxxxxxx
> > > > > FAX 510-740-3641; Tel: 717-763-7098 (shop) 717-652-1703(home)
> > > At 01:03 AM 7/2/2004, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi Roger-Can you use a variac and go on the primary of HiV Xfmr?
> > > Start low
> > > >and measure HiV tap to see what's what.Are you not getting HiV ?
> > > can you
> > > >brief me again on what's going on w/microwave.Is the filament
> > > supply part
> > > >of the xfmr? Some GE's like the JVM series I just finished use a
> > > separate
> > > >fil. xfmr.Certailly we should be able to dope this
> > > out...........Regards,
> > > >Pete
> > > >Roger G <rogerfixit@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >Alignment is good - Ck'd continuity using door itself.
> > > >Also ck'd high voltage side by putting 110v to transformer.
> > > >BTW, did not see any secondary high voltage tap from transformer
as
> > > mentioned.
> > > >Will go over ckt bd with magnifier - sounding more and more like
> > > micro [?]
> > > >Roger G.
> > > >
> > > >Mr. Fix-It
> > > >Harrisburg, PA 17110 WebSite- http://mrfixit.netfirms.com
> > > >rogerfixit@xxxxxxxx
> > > >FAX 510-740-3641; Tel: 717-763-7098 (shop) 717-652-1703(home)
> > > >
> > > >At 10:18 PM 6/29/2004, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Did you check the alignment of the switches? Check for bad
solder
> > > on the
> > > > >control board.
> > > > >Al Marquardt
> > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: More help needed -GE JVM140H Range
hood
> > > Spacemaker
> > > > >1400 No heat.
> > >
> > >
> > > Subbed all micro switches - no better - actually, now acting
> > > weirdly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All ideas appreciated
> > >
> > >
> > > Did check and looked ok but I have it on a table - he uses it
> > > hanging on
> > > the wall so it is possible that the door alignment could be off
-
> > > except -
> > > he said he took it home and tried it on the table without
> > > hanging it.
> > > Maybe something happened in transit.
> > > I usually run these and move the door up and down to assure
> > > alignment.
> > > Roger G.
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 11:09 PM 6/18/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Even though the switches check good how does the alignment
> > > look?
> > > > > > >Al Marquardt
> > > > > > >ampm@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > >Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
> > > > > > >206 W Main
> > > > > > >Girardville Pa. 17935
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Roger G"
> > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > >Cc: ;
> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 5:05 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] GE JVM140H Range hood Spacemaker 1400
> > > No heat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > REgarding the comments on the Sharp Microwave on
> > > TechAssist,
> > > > > > > > Just did a GE with VERY intermittent heating. Resoldered
> > > the ckt
> > > > bd as
> > > > > > > > suggested.
> > > > > > > > It worked every time for me - even before I soldered the
> > > bd- and
> > > > >always
> > > > > > >after.
> > > > > > > > Custy took it home - said it does not work.
> > > > > > > > I had checked the micro switches-- chk'd OK.
> > > > > > > > Have you found a similar problem with these GE
microwaves?
> > > > > > > > The connectors looked clean - not like the ones where
the
> > > grease gets
> > > > >into
> > > > > > > > them and turns them brown
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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