After they've covered the whole world, maybe we'll begin to get reliably good stuff again? Russ Hoyt Hoyt's TV Exeter, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:13 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Any way to revitalize dead sealed lead acid batteries? > I think its a quality problem. Each time the battery manufacture moves to a > different country it takes a few years before their batteries are any good, > if ever. But I see Sony NiCd batteries over 20 years old that come right > back to life after a charge. Also a few months ago someone came in with a 22 > year old Panasonic lead acid battery that was still in good condition. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > greentron@xxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:58 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Any way to revitalize dead sealed lead acid > batteries? > > > > Seems strange...with today's Technology...that someone has not come up > > with a reliable Rechargeable Battery. Most portable electronic > > equipment requires it. > > > > NIMH don't work that well either. > > > > -Ed- > > Ed Gaidies > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > Ontario-Canada > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > On 28-Aug-04, at 8:52 PM, Jerome Silverman wrote: > > > > > Probably garbage, but you can try keeping them on charge for a long > > > time and > > > there might be some recovery. If there is any recovery you can only > > > tell by > > > seeing how long they will run a load. When a lead acid battery > > > discharges, > > > lead sulfate crystals form over the active area. When you recharge it > > > the > > > crystals go back into solution. If the crystals are allowed to exist > > > for a > > > long time, they merge into one another and become less soluble, > > > blocking off > > > the active area. They will still dissolve but it can take a really long > > > time. Thats why the instructions with the battery say to recharge > > > after any > > > use within 48 hours or the battery may have reduced capacity. > > > A good quality sealed lead acid battery is supposed to retain at least > > > 90% > > > of its charge after one year of storage. There are a lot of poor > > > quality > > > batteries around and they self discharge quickly, so they are already > > > sulfated by the time you get them and they either wont take a charge > > > or they > > > run down quickly in use. We used to stock and sell batteries for > > > portable > > > vcrs and camcorders but more and more of the batteries were returned as > > > defective. We started testing them as we received them and sending > > > back the > > > bad and weak ones. On some shipments we had to send back the whole > > > thing. > > > When K-Mart and WalMart started to sell them we gave up. Their > > > over-the-counter every day price was usually less than our wholesale > > > cost. I > > > remember once when we were Thomson ASC and they ran out of GB90 > > > batteries > > > which were failing like mad under warranty and they said that they > > > didnt > > > know when they would get more. I told them that I saw plenty at > > > WalMart and > > > they authorized me to buy them for the warranties. WalMart price was > > > $39.95 > > > and the Thompson distributor dealer price was $42. > > > Jerry Silverman > > > Greentron Inc > > > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > > > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > > > greentron@xxxxxxx > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:14 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Any way to revitalize dead sealed lead acid > > > batteries? > > > > > > > > >> I found a box of 10 brand new sealed lead acid batteries, 12V 4AH > > >> that I > > >> forgot I had. Problem is, they are all very low or dead. I tried > > >> connecting my power supply with current limiting but the batteries > > >> aren't drawing any current at all. > > >> > > >> Is there any way to kick these into charging up, or are they garbage? > > >> -- > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Gary McCartney > > >> > > >> McCartney Electronics > > >> Guelph Ontario Canada > > >> Est. 1984 > > >> email: gary (at) number63.ca > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> ---- > > > --- > > >> Lost Password: > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >> Email Archives: > > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------ > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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