I think its a quality problem. Each time the battery manufacture moves to a different country it takes a few years before their batteries are any good, if ever. But I see Sony NiCd batteries over 20 years old that come right back to life after a charge. Also a few months ago someone came in with a 22 year old Panasonic lead acid battery that was still in good condition. Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 greentron@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Any way to revitalize dead sealed lead acid batteries? > Seems strange...with today's Technology...that someone has not come up > with a reliable Rechargeable Battery. Most portable electronic > equipment requires it. > > NIMH don't work that well either. > > -Ed- > Ed Gaidies > Tel-Tek Electronics > Ontario-Canada > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > On 28-Aug-04, at 8:52 PM, Jerome Silverman wrote: > > > Probably garbage, but you can try keeping them on charge for a long > > time and > > there might be some recovery. If there is any recovery you can only > > tell by > > seeing how long they will run a load. When a lead acid battery > > discharges, > > lead sulfate crystals form over the active area. When you recharge it > > the > > crystals go back into solution. If the crystals are allowed to exist > > for a > > long time, they merge into one another and become less soluble, > > blocking off > > the active area. They will still dissolve but it can take a really long > > time. Thats why the instructions with the battery say to recharge > > after any > > use within 48 hours or the battery may have reduced capacity. > > A good quality sealed lead acid battery is supposed to retain at least > > 90% > > of its charge after one year of storage. There are a lot of poor > > quality > > batteries around and they self discharge quickly, so they are already > > sulfated by the time you get them and they either wont take a charge > > or they > > run down quickly in use. We used to stock and sell batteries for > > portable > > vcrs and camcorders but more and more of the batteries were returned as > > defective. We started testing them as we received them and sending > > back the > > bad and weak ones. On some shipments we had to send back the whole > > thing. > > When K-Mart and WalMart started to sell them we gave up. Their > > over-the-counter every day price was usually less than our wholesale > > cost. I > > remember once when we were Thomson ASC and they ran out of GB90 > > batteries > > which were failing like mad under warranty and they said that they > > didnt > > know when they would get more. I told them that I saw plenty at > > WalMart and > > they authorized me to buy them for the warranties. WalMart price was > > $39.95 > > and the Thompson distributor dealer price was $42. > > Jerry Silverman > > Greentron Inc > > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > > greentron@xxxxxxx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:14 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Any way to revitalize dead sealed lead acid > > batteries? > > > > > >> I found a box of 10 brand new sealed lead acid batteries, 12V 4AH > >> that I > >> forgot I had. Problem is, they are all very low or dead. I tried > >> connecting my power supply with current limiting but the batteries > >> aren't drawing any current at all. > >> > >> Is there any way to kick these into charging up, or are they garbage? > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gary McCartney > >> > >> McCartney Electronics > >> Guelph Ontario Canada > >> Est. 1984 > >> email: gary (at) number63.ca > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > > --- > >> Lost Password: > >> http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >> Email Archives: > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/