[TCUG] Re: Toucan Green Wave Indicators for Cyclists
- From: "Peter Jones" <Peter.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:52:34 +0100
Countdown timers appear to be a good idea in certain circumstances but,
when I naively asked Suku at Traffex why we couldn't use them on signals
in this country, he pointed out that such sites would then need to be on
fixed time, or at least not operating under SCOOT. At this point, I felt
like a new arrival on the UTC scene, turned a deeper shade of pink and
moved on!
I often cycle also, when not blasting up the road on my motorbike, and
I admit that at busy times, or in quiet times when traffic is moving
faster, I am too scared to ride along the road and often use the
pavements. Every driver has their own idea of how much room they give
you, some treat you as an unknown entity and give about 6 feet, others
treat you as being on railway lines, in spite of 40 mph gusting winds,
and leave you around 6 inches!
I don't see what the advantage to a count down timer would be when
compared to improving safety in some way. The fact is, we will not
achieve a considerable modal shift to cycling that will warrant spending
millions, until today's children grow up with the fear of global
warming. Should we now plan for that generation instead?
Peter Jones
Principal Traffic Systems Engineer
Phone: +44 (0) 151 934 4254
Fax: +44 (0) 151 934 2850
Sefton MBC - UTC
3rd Floor
Magdalen House
30 Trinity Road
Bootle
L20 3NJ
>>> "Bernie Japs" <Bernie.Japs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 11/04/2008 16:24 >>>
Phil
Would you not require special authorisation to install such a
facility?=20
Bernie
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Sent: 11 April 2008 15:06
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Subject: [TCUG] Toucan Green Wave Indicators for Cyclists
It's Friday afternoon, not April 1st
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Our cycling officer has just come to us with a plan for advance
indicators for cyclists on a cycle way as it approaches a toucan.
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It is apparently in use on the continent and gives an indication to
cyclists so that they can adjust their speed so that they can reach
the
toucan whilst it is still on green.
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Anyone know anything about such a device? have a look at a company
called 'tradeinvent'
http://www.tradeinvent.co.uk/products/bicycletraffic.php=20
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No rants please - We have already been through the 'how can it work
with
anything but a fixed time crossing' and 'should we be getting cyclists
to speed up as they approach a conflict point with both cars and peds'
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I recall there being a count-down timer being made available from one
signal company that may have been used by some of you. We certainly
didn't but I suppose the concept is not hugely different - any
comments
on that one as well.
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Phil
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