It's Friday afternoon, not April 1st Our cycling officer has just come to us with a plan for advance indicators for cyclists on a cycle way as it approaches a toucan. It is apparently in use on the continent and gives an indication to cyclists so that they can adjust their speed so that they can reach the toucan whilst it is still on green. Anyone know anything about such a device? have a look at a company called 'tradeinvent' http://www.tradeinvent.co.uk/products/bicycletraffic.php No rants please - We have already been through the 'how can it work with anything but a fixed time crossing' and 'should we be getting cyclists to speed up as they approach a conflict point with both cars and peds' I recall there being a count-down timer being made available from one signal company that may have been used by some of you. We certainly didn't but I suppose the concept is not hugely different - any comments on that one as well. Phil ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug