The example is useful, because of the way lane capacity is affected by approach and exit behaviour. It is a real, not a made up example. Regards Paul W Head of Profession - Telematics Amey Tel +44 121 616 7506 Mob +44 7971 142853 paul.welsh@xxxxxxxxxx 65 Smallbrook Queensway Birmingham B5 4HP Amey | Service is our passion. People, our strength -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kirk-Ellis, Ian B Sent: 03 July 2008 11:06 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Re: RR67 sat Flow Thanks Paul, that would be useful if you have it to hand so that I can have= a read. Thanks again Ian -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behal= f Of Welsh, Paul Sent: 03 July 2008 10:58 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Re: RR67 sat Flow Whatever you do, do NOT take any notice of width, that was strictly 50's thinking from the TRL track tests TP56 and all that, not that there aren't still some useful bits in TP 56 if you have a copy. This is clearly set out in RR67 and in a similar document from the Australian Road Research Bureau. As Mervyn says I did a doc for Birmingham and can let you have a copy of the summary as I presented at the Nottingham symposium if it is of any use, the worked example is useful. PW =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kirk-Ellis, Ian B Sent: 03 July 2008 10:15 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] RR67 sat Flow We use RR67 to derive sat flows for TRANSYT when it's a new build that can't be measured onsite, but a colleague from another office has said that he recalls a paper that was subsequent to RR67 and defined Sat flow in bands directly relating to width for use in transyt. We use RR67 as this is the latest we know of and its use in LINSIG backs up this view but I thought I'd ask the forum if anyone knew of this work and if it was subsequent to RR67 ? Thanks Ian Ian Kirk-Ellis Principal Engineer Waterman Civils Lockington Hall, Lockington, Derbyshire, DE74 2RH TEL (01509) 674567 FAX. (01509) 674623 ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ************************************************** COMPANY PARTICULARS: For particulars of companies within the Amey Group, pl= =3D ease visit http://www.amey.co.uk/Home/Companyparticulars/tabid/182/Default.= =3D aspx. Amey plc, Registered Office: The Sherard Building, Edmund Halley Roa= =3D d, Oxford OX4 4DQ, Registered in England: 4736639 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and accompanying data are for th= =3D e sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is= =3D confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that= =3D any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is= =3D prohibited. If you received this email message in error, please notify us = =3D immediately and erase all copies of this message and attachments. Please note that Amey monitors incoming and outgoing mail for compliance wi= =3D th its Email Policy. This includes scanning emails for computer viruses. ************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ************************************************** COMPANY PARTICULARS: For particulars of companies within the Amey Group, please visit http://www.amey.co.uk/Home/Companyparticulars/tabid/182/Default.aspx. Amey plc, Registered Office: The Sherard Building, Edmund Halley Road, Oxford OX4 4DQ, Registered in England: 4736639 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and accompanying data are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you received this email message in error, please notify us immediately and erase all copies of this message and attachments. Please note that Amey monitors incoming and outgoing mail for compliance with its Email Policy. This includes scanning emails for computer viruses. ************************************************** -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: application/msword -- File: Saturation Flow Sumary.doc -- Desc: Saturation Flow Sumary.doc ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug