[TCUG] Re: Audible Signals

  • From: Tim Clark <Tim.Clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:09:38 +0000

Thanks for your responses, thought I couldn't be the first to encounter t=
his problem. I will press to make them change their system.

Tim

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Sent: 14 January 2008 16:09
To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Audible Signals

Tim
We had a similar problem in Nottingham so time ago (at Dixons) - they cla=
imed that they couldn't change it but when we played up the road safety/c=
laims/blood on hands /national standard/ blind people etc issues =3D and =
they suddenly found they could change it after all.

Richard Berry
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From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =3D=
 Behalf Of Tim Clark
Sent: 14 January 2008 16:03
To: tcug, forum
Subject: [TCUG] Audible Signals

We have a Puffin crossing sited close to the doorway of a House of =3D Fr=
aser department store. We have discovered that the doorway security syste=
m =3D alarm sounds similar to the crossing's audible signal. Although thi=
s doesn't operate frequently one of our staff has witnessed pedestrians s=
etting =3D off to cross against a red signal when it sounded.
I have spoken with the Store Manager who informs me that this is their st=
andard countywide system and that the tone cannot be altered. The =3D vol=
ume has been set to suit their needs but would be heard from the crossing=
 at =3D any volume. She could offer no solutions but was concerned about =
the =3D possiblity of claims of liability against the store if there were=
 an accident.

Has anyone experience of a similar problem, if so what steps did you =3D =
take and did you consider the legal and safety aspects? We are considerin=
g =3D adding "cross with green figure" signing.

T Clark
Senior Engineer

Lincolnshire County Council
City Hall
Beaumont Fee
Lincoln
LN1 1DN

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