Sounds like a good plan. If we get enough of the essence (not sure what = the drop rate is) I might try to get a piece or two of the armor to = upgrade as well. Gild and Tae had a good outing in velks last = night...only died once...hehe. Seems like 51 is taking forever, however = my goal is to try and get 52 before sunday. Al -----Original Message----- From: Heiling Barry T Maj USAFE/DOXE [mailto:barry.heiling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:48 PM To: 'smee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [smee] Re: Oif! Winning the boots was a fantastic deal. Unfortunately, it was the pull = rate that was disappointing. Two SMEE groups could easily pull as fast or = faster than that 5 group raid was pulling. Have fought there with just a four person group that was pulling at about the same speed as that raid. For 6 Apr SMEE, recommend the following: 1. start at JP to assist Tae = in beating on Barduk (have tracker prepositioned to let smee know if worth = trip to JP), 2. head to Skyfire mountains to hunt wurm's (Hak =3D shards for cleric epic, Swayze =3D essence for cultural armor), 3. CoM reavers (Druid/ranger/shaman epic pieces). Events 1 and 2 can be done with any number of SMEEers, event 3 would require a near full turn out. UP will be a good place for us for some time to come, I would like to = hit it on and off as we go along. There are some great loots that drop there = and we can upgrade a lot of plate and chain class gear. Epic note: SMEE is capable of doing many of the minor battles for most class epic weapons. Hopefully, everyone has researched their particular epic and knows what items are required. Theese battles could make could adventures to have in our hip pockets for SMEE days. Actaully there are several items that can be done by 1-3 SMEEers. A goal for SMEE should = be to get everyone as close to their epic as possible, leaving only the large guild/planar type raids to get epic. SMEE can probably gather up enough high-level friends or FA support to actually complete some of the epics.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Steenhoek, Al M. (Maj)~U [mailto:STEENHOA@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:26 PM To: smee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [smee] Re: Oif! VPUTZ wrote: then we can try UP again (hopefully WITHOUT a sluggish raiding party at the entrance) Wasn't all bad...Tae won the roll for the boots that dropped...nice =3D upgrade for him. Al