[sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave

  • From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:36:15 -0800

Kevin,

Not sure you've followed the thread. I've already selected 12 through 16 
using the Ctrl-Shift-A keystroke as Dan describes in his scenarios at the 
bottom of this message. I'm asking how to select other system sections once 
I've done that.

Here's what Dan wrote about the contextual behavior of Ctrl+Shift+A:

"If an item which is not a note or rest is selected then every item of that
type will be selected on the current staff but in the current system only."

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 02, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


Dave,
Why not just redo the selection using Alt CTRL A and select 12-20?
Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:11 AM
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


Dan,

Very nice. You are clearly thinking about those details that can trip us up.

Another question: If I have selected a system as we've been discussing can I

in any way select another system above or below using some arrow
combination, as well?

e.g. all expressions text items in bars 12 through 16 are selected in the
Piano A staff. I am now being so very particular that I also want to select
the expression text items in bars 17 through 20 just below that, also on the

Piano A staff. Any way to Alt+Ctrl+arrow to add those bars to the selection?

Yes, I know, I'm asking a lot.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 01, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


Hi Dave,

You wrote: interesting that only a single system is affected in your third
scenario. So to clarify, if my page has 8 systems of piano grand staff and
I've selected the expression text on the third system down and then press
Ctrl-Shift-A and then delete, I only delete expression text on that third
system and all others are unaffected?

Absolutely, you'd only be deleting the expressions on that one system.

You wrote: This would seem to be a bit difficult for the blind to determine
the extent of a delete operation, to know exactly what bars are affected.

You'll be pleased to hear that in beta two Control + Shift + A not only
makes the selection but also reports the bar and position of the first and
last items in the selection.  Also, selecting an entire chord or bar will
also be reported properly.

Dan Rugman

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-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: 01 January 2009 20:40
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave

Dan,

W/r Ctrl-Shift-A for selection being context-sensitive -- that's absolutely
wonderful information. It would help to explain why I've not always been a
fan of that keystroke, now I know why.

Interesting that only a single system is affected in your third scenario. So
to clarify, if my page has 8 systems of piano grand staff and I've selected
the expression text on the third system down and then press Ctrl-Shift-A and
then delete, I only delete expression text on that third system and all
others are unaffected?

This would seem to be a bit difficult for the blind to determine the extent
of a delete operation, to know exactly what bars are affected. Of course
using the Alt+f2 to list out the pages/systems can help.

Again, thanks for the details.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 01, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


The select bars dialog is new is Sibelius 5.

The select more feature has a keystroke (Control + Shift + A) and it is
context sensitive.

. If a note in a chord is selected then the entire chord is selected. .If an
isolated note or entire chord is selected then it selects the entire bar. .
If an item which is not a note or rest is selected then every item of that
type will be selected on the current staff but in the current system only.

Dan Rugman

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