[sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave

  • From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:37:24 -0600

Dave,
        Why not just redo the selection using Alt CTRL A and select 12-20?
Kevin

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[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:11 AM
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


Dan,

Very nice. You are clearly thinking about those details that can trip us up.

Another question: If I have selected a system as we've been discussing can I

in any way select another system above or below using some arrow
combination, as well?

e.g. all expressions text items in bars 12 through 16 are selected in the
Piano A staff. I am now being so very particular that I also want to select
the expression text items in bars 17 through 20 just below that, also on the

Piano A staff. Any way to Alt+Ctrl+arrow to add those bars to the selection?

Yes, I know, I'm asking a lot.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 01, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


Hi Dave,

You wrote: interesting that only a single system is affected in your third
scenario. So to clarify, if my page has 8 systems of piano grand staff and
I've selected the expression text on the third system down and then press
Ctrl-Shift-A and then delete, I only delete expression text on that third
system and all others are unaffected?

Absolutely, you'd only be deleting the expressions on that one system.

You wrote: This would seem to be a bit difficult for the blind to determine
the extent of a delete operation, to know exactly what bars are affected.

You'll be pleased to hear that in beta two Control + Shift + A not only
makes the selection but also reports the bar and position of the first and
last items in the selection.  Also, selecting an entire chord or bar will
also be reported properly.

Dan Rugman

visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of
Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: 01 January 2009 20:40
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave

Dan,

W/r Ctrl-Shift-A for selection being context-sensitive -- that's absolutely
wonderful information. It would help to explain why I've not always been a
fan of that keystroke, now I know why.

Interesting that only a single system is affected in your third scenario. So
to clarify, if my page has 8 systems of piano grand staff and I've selected
the expression text on the third system down and then press Ctrl-Shift-A and
then delete, I only delete expression text on that third system and all
others are unaffected?

This would seem to be a bit difficult for the blind to determine the extent
of a delete operation, to know exactly what bars are affected. Of course
using the Alt+f2 to list out the pages/systems can help.

Again, thanks for the details.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 01, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave


The select bars dialog is new is Sibelius 5.

The select more feature has a keystroke (Control + Shift + A) and it is
context sensitive.

. If a note in a chord is selected then the entire chord is selected. .If an
isolated note or entire chord is selected then it selects the entire bar. .
If an item which is not a note or rest is selected then every item of that
type will be selected on the current staff but in the current system only.

Dan Rugman

visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of
Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk

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[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: 01 January 2009 00:08
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: deleting every thing on one stave

Steph,
Assuming that you only want to delete the notes and rests in one staff
without deleting the staff itself, do the following: 1.  Make sure that you
are in the staff whose notes you wish to delete. 2.  Under the Edit Menu,
select the Select submenu and go to Select Bars. 3.  You will be in a dialog
with a from and through box.  You'll be in the through box.  Type the number
of the last bar whose notes you wish to delete. 4.  Tab to the next box.
Usually, the first note of the score will be
selected in that box already.   If you want to delete from some point within
a score that is not the beginning, type the number the bar at which you wish
to start your deletion.  There is no way to begin your deletion at a point
within a bar using this command. 5.  Tab to the box that says make system
selection and be certain that it is not checked.  This is important because
if you have checked it, not only the notes, but also the very staves will be
removed which will change the number of bars in your score. 7.  Tab to and
click OK.  You should find that you have empty bars on the staff whose notes
you wish to remove. As far as I know, this select command was not in
Sibelius 3.  I just discovered it myself and I think it's very cool. There
are also select all and select more commands.  I've done some fiddling with
the select more command and, as far as I can tell, if you are on the first
beat of a bar in one staff and choose select more, the entire bar will be
selected.  However, if you are at the first beat of a bar in more than one
staff, say a piano, for example and select more, nothing seems to happen.
Finally, it also appears that if you are on a beat other than 1 in a bar and
select more, nothing seems to happen. Anyone else feel free to chime in and
correct anything I've gotten wrong here. Kevin

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephanie Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:13 PM
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] deleting every thing on one stave


Is there a way to delete every thing on one stave?
Steph
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