[SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!

  • From: George James <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:43:23 -0700

Some of us real old timers even remember the early days of ECL.  SI has 
been around for a long time and for awhile it was a lost art.   Really good 
to see the expertise be passe on with the increased need with todays 
lighting bolt edge rates and frequencies.

At 01:51 PM 6/18/01 -0700, Dr. John L. Prince wrote:

>The temptation is just too great!!  The endeavor we call SI now has been
>around possibly since the 50's, at major computer companies (or maybe just
>at one major computer company).  I first developed and taught a
>university-level class (at Clemson University) which included "SI" elements
>in 1977--it was in fact a class in high speed digital electronics, so it
>included the circuit characteristics as well it must in this area.  Bill
>Blood, thanks for help from your book!  In 1983 the situation was becoming
>more serious, and here at Arizona we started a class in packaging which
>included "SI" elements.  In 1984 we received major funding from SRC (which
>we still have, nearly 20 years later) to develop the science and algorithms
>behind what you now call "SI".  Around 200 papers dating back to 1986, and
>numerous graduate students(dating back to 1986), have come out of this
>effort.  Since 1990 or so  there are other university programs (but not
>very many) which also address this area.
>
>So, there is little new under the sun today, just new names for things.
>And, just more fun to be had in a neat field.  John Prince
>
>At 06:45 PM 06/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Hi Esther,
> >
> >I am not sure if you are aware but Signal Integrity did show up until 
> 94-95.
> >The only person to satisfy your requirements is Howard Johnson aka author of
> >first book on SI "Book of Black Magic".  What I am trying to say is that 
> your
> >post will make some people laugh.  Don't worry you are not the first one 
> with
> >similar post.  What you should have wrought is "8 years of high speed PCB
>board
> >design with emphasis on signal integrity".  That would be more belivable.
> >The SI wasn't issue at lower speeds.  It has shown up in last few years as a
> >mayor issue.  I have been working on SI and I can tell you there aren't that
> >many people who really know SI.  You should look for a person who has
>designed
> >whole lot of backplanes and who has done SI simulations on their own (not
> >someone who got other people to do it for them).
> >
> >I hope this helps you.  And I hope you find right person for the job.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bo
> >
> >p.s. If you need help being more specific in your search feel free to 
> contact
> >me.
> >p.p.s.  I am not looking for a job and I probably wouldn't fit your
> >qualifications.  I am just trying to help.
> >
> >--- esther williams <estherw2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello - The following is a SI position at an Optical Data Networking start
> >> up.
> >>
> >> Please contact: Esther at ewilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx for more information.
> >>
> >> Title: Senior Signal Integrity Engineer
> >>
> >> Location: Mountain View, CA
> >>
> >> Job Description:
> >>
> >> - Specify, simulate, design and analyze high speed interfaces for data
> >> networking systems.
> >>
> >> - Verification of actual hardware and confirm the simulations results to
> >> guarantee integrity of all the high speed interfaces.
> >>
> >> - Generate guide lines for board designers and layout designers for the
>high
> >> speed routing.
> >>
> >> - Setup process to sign off layouts for PCB fabs.
> >>
> >> Position Requirements:
> >>
> >> - Experience with high speed IOs like LVDS, HSTL, SSTL, LVTTL, CML, PECL.
> >>
> >> - Familiar with high speed bus interfaces.
> >>
> >> - Knowledgeable with ASIC design flow and IO selection process.
> >>
> >> - Extensive use of SPICE and IBIS to simulate signal integrity for the 
> high
> >> speed board.
> >>
> >> - Experience with QUAD like tools to sign off PCB layout designs.
> >>
> >> - Multi-gigabit board design and EMI/EMC containment techniques.
> >>
> >> - Defined impedance controlled PCB stack-ups and familiar with fabrication
> >> process and backplane designs.
> >>
> >> - MSEE or PhD.
> >>
> >> - 8 + year's experience in signal integrity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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