[SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!

At 02:21 PM 06/18/2001 -0700, Kai, Francis wrote:

>After Mike Conn and Prof. Prince have addressed the history of SI, I would
>suggest the original advertiser, Optical Data Networking, or other hiring
>companies, to put down the knowledge of the history of SI as one of the
>"Position Requirement".

a phrase comes to mind with the history of 'SI';  "the telegraphers equations"
back when a transmission line covered a significant part of this country!
but it wasn't called digital back then, to send a bunch of 0's and 1's...


>I used to be a teacher and I know it is very important for a student or a
>working engineer to know the history of his/her own field. The knowledge
>will help the student or engineer to know the progress and development of
>this particular branch of science. When a complicated problem pops up in
>his/her lab or simulation run, he/she can trace this problem to the related
>area and solve the problem. I am happy to see there are many gurus in the
>[SI-LIST] to help younger engineers with history to solve their problems.
>
>Signal integrity is a "neat field", as pointed out by Prof. Prince. Working
>engineers need continuous help from professional consultants and gurus to
>learn this field.
>
>Francis Kai
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dr. John L. Prince [mailto:prince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:51 PM
>To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!
>
>
>
>The temptation is just too great!!  The endeavor we call SI now has been
>around possibly since the 50's, at major computer companies (or maybe just
>at one major computer company).  I first developed and taught a
>university-level class (at Clemson University) which included "SI" elements
>in 1977--it was in fact a class in high speed digital electronics, so it
>included the circuit characteristics as well it must in this area.  Bill
>Blood, thanks for help from your book!  In 1983 the situation was becoming
>more serious, and here at Arizona we started a class in packaging which
>included "SI" elements.  In 1984 we received major funding from SRC (which
>we still have, nearly 20 years later) to develop the science and algorithms
>behind what you now call "SI".  Around 200 papers dating back to 1986, and
>numerous graduate students(dating back to 1986), have come out of this
>effort.  Since 1990 or so  there are other university programs (but not
>very many) which also address this area.
>
>So, there is little new under the sun today, just new names for things.
>And, just more fun to be had in a neat field.  John Prince
>
>At 06:45 PM 06/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Hi Esther,
> >
> >I am not sure if you are aware but Signal Integrity did show up until
>94-95.
> >The only person to satisfy your requirements is Howard Johnson aka author
>of
> >first book on SI "Book of Black Magic".  What I am trying to say is that
>your
> >post will make some people laugh.  Don't worry you are not the first one
>with
> >similar post.  What you should have wrought is "8 years of high speed PCB
>board
> >design with emphasis on signal integrity".  That would be more belivable.
> >The SI wasn't issue at lower speeds.  It has shown up in last few years as
>a
> >mayor issue.  I have been working on SI and I can tell you there aren't
>that
> >many people who really know SI.  You should look for a person who has
>designed
> >whole lot of backplanes and who has done SI simulations on their own (not
> >someone who got other people to do it for them).
> >
> >I hope this helps you.  And I hope you find right person for the job.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bo
> >
> >p.s. If you need help being more specific in your search feel free to
>contact
> >me.
> >p.p.s.  I am not looking for a job and I probably wouldn't fit your
> >qualifications.  I am just trying to help.
> >
> >--- esther williams <estherw2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello - The following is a SI position at an Optical Data Networking
>start
> >> up.
> >>
> >> Please contact: Esther at ewilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx for more information.
> >>
> >> Title: Senior Signal Integrity Engineer
> >>
> >> Location: Mountain View, CA
> >>
> >> Job Description:
> >>
> >> - Specify, simulate, design and analyze high speed interfaces for data
> >> networking systems.
> >>
> >> - Verification of actual hardware and confirm the simulations results to
> >> guarantee integrity of all the high speed interfaces.
> >>
> >> - Generate guide lines for board designers and layout designers for the
>high
> >> speed routing.
> >>
> >> - Setup process to sign off layouts for PCB fabs.
> >>
> >> Position Requirements:
> >>
> >> - Experience with high speed IOs like LVDS, HSTL, SSTL, LVTTL, CML, PECL.
> >>
> >> - Familiar with high speed bus interfaces.
> >>
> >> - Knowledgeable with ASIC design flow and IO selection process.
> >>
> >> - Extensive use of SPICE and IBIS to simulate signal integrity for the
>high
> >> speed board.
> >>
> >> - Experience with QUAD like tools to sign off PCB layout designs.
> >>
> >> - Multi-gigabit board design and EMI/EMC containment techniques.
> >>
> >> - Defined impedance controlled PCB stack-ups and familiar with
>fabrication
> >> process and backplane designs.
> >>
> >> - MSEE or PhD.
> >>
> >> - 8 + year's experience in signal integrity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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