[SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!

i kinda get the feeling that its the other way around...  a true SI guy is a

microwave guy who's turned digital.  ;-)  all the digital guys that pick up 
on a little microwave are just SI wannabe's.

miker

p.s.  i'm a digital guy and the above is said tongue-in-cheek.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yibing Tang [SMTP:ytang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:16 PM
> To:   si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!
> 
> 
> That's too hot. Anyway, I learn the "history" of SI.
> From my understanding, SI just means digital guys are now getting familiar
> with some concepts of microwave technology. Yibing
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dr. John L. Prince
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:51 PM
> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> The temptation is just too great!!  The endeavor we call SI now has been
> around possibly since the 50's, at major computer companies (or maybe just
> at one major computer company).  I first developed and taught a
> university-level class (at Clemson University) which included "SI"
> elements
> in 1977--it was in fact a class in high speed digital electronics, so it
> included the circuit characteristics as well it must in this area.  Bill
> Blood, thanks for help from your book!  In 1983 the situation was becoming
> more serious, and here at Arizona we started a class in packaging which
> included "SI" elements.  In 1984 we received major funding from SRC (which
> we still have, nearly 20 years later) to develop the science and
> algorithms
> behind what you now call "SI".  Around 200 papers dating back to 1986, and
> numerous graduate students(dating back to 1986), have come out of this
> effort.  Since 1990 or so  there are other university programs (but not
> very many) which also address this area.
> 
> So, there is little new under the sun today, just new names for things.
> And, just more fun to be had in a neat field.  John Prince
> 
> At 06:45 PM 06/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Hi Esther,
> >
> >I am not sure if you are aware but Signal Integrity did show up until
> 94-95.
> >The only person to satisfy your requirements is Howard Johnson aka author
> of
> >first book on SI "Book of Black Magic".  What I am trying to say is that
> your
> >post will make some people laugh.  Don't worry you are not the first one
> with
> >similar post.  What you should have wrought is "8 years of high speed PCB
> board
> >design with emphasis on signal integrity".  That would be more belivable.
> >The SI wasn't issue at lower speeds.  It has shown up in last few years
> as
> a
> >mayor issue.  I have been working on SI and I can tell you there aren't
> that
> >many people who really know SI.  You should look for a person who has
> designed
> >whole lot of backplanes and who has done SI simulations on their own (not
> >someone who got other people to do it for them).
> >
> >I hope this helps you.  And I hope you find right person for the job.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bo
> >
> >p.s. If you need help being more specific in your search feel free to
> contact
> >me.
> >p.p.s.  I am not looking for a job and I probably wouldn't fit your
> >qualifications.  I am just trying to help.
> >
> >--- esther williams <estherw2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello - The following is a SI position at an Optical Data Networking
> start
> >> up.
> >>
> >> Please contact: Esther at ewilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx for more information.
> >>
> >> Title: Senior Signal Integrity Engineer
> >>
> >> Location: Mountain View, CA
> >>
> >> Job Description:
> >>
> >> - Specify, simulate, design and analyze high speed interfaces for data
> >> networking systems.
> >>
> >> - Verification of actual hardware and confirm the simulations results
> to
> >> guarantee integrity of all the high speed interfaces.
> >>
> >> - Generate guide lines for board designers and layout designers for the
> high
> >> speed routing.
> >>
> >> - Setup process to sign off layouts for PCB fabs.
> >>
> >> Position Requirements:
> >>
> >> - Experience with high speed IOs like LVDS, HSTL, SSTL, LVTTL, CML,
> PECL.
> >>
> >> - Familiar with high speed bus interfaces.
> >>
> >> - Knowledgeable with ASIC design flow and IO selection process.
> >>
> >> - Extensive use of SPICE and IBIS to simulate signal integrity for the
> high
> >> speed board.
> >>
> >> - Experience with QUAD like tools to sign off PCB layout designs.
> >>
> >> - Multi-gigabit board design and EMI/EMC containment techniques.
> >>
> >> - Defined impedance controlled PCB stack-ups and familiar with
> fabrication
> >> process and backplane designs.
> >>
> >> - MSEE or PhD.
> >>
> >> - 8 + years experience in signal integrity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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