[SI-LIST] Re: Decoupling capacitors

  • From: Chris Cheng <chris.cheng@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:12:20 -0700

I am also under the impression that the surface
mount pad and via structure on PCB will be the 
larger inductance vs. the capacitor itself. 
Any drop in inductance based on smaller capacitor
size will be small compared with the pad and via 
inductance.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Anderson [mailto:Raymond.Anderson@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:02 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Decoupling capacitors



Another thing to consider regarding Y5V parts is the loss
of rated capacitance when DC bias is applied.

Y5V parts exhibit a loss of about 85% capacitance at a 
bias level of 6vdc. i.e.: a 100uF part will actually
have about 15uF capacitance at 6 vdc bias.

X5R (which is similar to X7R) parts exhibit a 40% loss
of capacitance at 6vdc. A 100uF part will have 60uF
capacitance at 6vdc.

Be sure to understand all the curves on the data sheets
and ping your selected vendor for more detailed info.

-Ray Anderson

Sun Microsystems


>
>Decoupling capacitors 0603/X7R/100nF versus 0402/Y5V/100nF
>
>Although 0402 pkg. has less inductance (that matters), 100nF caps in that
>package are only available with Y5V dielectric and our EE has the following
>concerns:
>
>1.     Self-resonant frequency is lower  (5MHz for Y5V versus 20MHz for
>X7R)
>
>2.     Limited temperature range (+22%-82% capacitance for Y5V versus
>+/-15% capacitance for X7R)
>
>
>Is it safe to use 0402 pkg. instead of 0603?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Alex
>-------------------------------------------
>Alexander Shapira 
>Sr. PCB Designer 
>Leitch Technology Corp. 
>www.leitch.com <http://www.leitch.com> 
>
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