Avtaar, It seems strange to me that in the present/coming years of "microwave digital" that we will be graduating logic designers who will be unable to get their signals across a PCB or keep those signals from interfering with other signals. As things stand today any EMI engineer can tell you that they can make an entire career on fixing prototype SI/EMI problems based on the same half-dozen principles from SI/EMI 101. But, fixing problems in hardware instead of catching them in the virtual design not working smart. Part of the challenge of working smart is applying principles and analysis early in development. The logic designer is best positioned to do that or involve specialist to do it for him or her. First we had the analog age. Then we had the digital age. Now I believe we have the dawning of the age of fast impulse signals driving logic circuits. Meanwhile our schools are, as always, a day late and a dollar short - not necessarily a few individual professors and schools here and there. When I got my BSEE in 1962 my professors were still teaching me about vacuum tubes and had barely started seriously considering teaching transistors. This is despite the fact that industry had developed viable transistors for nearly a decade by then. The IEEE EMC Society is just now making a credible effort to address signal integrity. But, signal integrity has been a driving issue for about 20 years now. It is hard to evolve institutionalized cultures (schools, professional societies, and old-line companies) and thinking. They are, after all, in the business of perpetuating their PAST successes and expertise. The advice about UM-R is good. So is the advice about noting which professors and schools are publishing in the latest technologies. Beyond that, stay informed and well read from industry-oriented trade magazines in those latest technologies on your own. Let me suggest High Frequency, Conformity, and the IEEE EMC Society quarterly newsletter. Lastly, here is a reading list of reference textbooks you can consider perusing: [1] Staff of Agilent Technologies, “Time Domain Reflectometry Theory,” Application Note 1304-2 Hewlett-Packard, 2006. See also: Staff of HP, “Time Domain Reflectometry Theory,” Application Note 1304-2 Hewlett-Packard, 1988. http://www.lthe.hmg.inpg.fr/medite/5966-4855E.pdf [2] Staff of Agilent, “Manuals: Network Analyzers,” Various, down-loadable, Agilent. http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/facet.jspx?c=153424.i.2&to=80039.k.1&cc=US&lc=eng&no=225 <http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/facet.jspx?c=153424.i.2&to=80039.k.1&cc=US&lc=eng&no=225> [3] C. Antonescu, P.D. Ewing, “EMI/RFI and Power Surge Withstand Guidance for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission.” [4] Bruce R. Archambeault, “Shielding of Air Vent Holes,” page 102 IEEE EMC Society Newsletter, Issue # 215, Fall 2007 [5] Bruce R. Archambeault and James L. Drewniak, /PCB Design for Real World EMI Control/, Springer, 2002. ISBN: 1-4020-7130-2 [6] Bill Ashley, “Using the Network Analyzer as a Grid Dip Oscillator,” AN 132 AEA Technology, Inc., 2005 http://www.aeatechnology.com/usermanuals/AN132%20Using%20the%20Network%20Analyzer%20as%20a%20Grid%20Dip%20Oscillator.pdf [7] Eric Bogatin, /Signal Integrity: Simplified/, Prentice Hall, 2004. ISBN: 0-13-066946-6 [8] Marty Brown, “Good Physical Layout Takes Black Magic Out of Power Supply Design,” EDA Design Line, 2000. http://www.edadesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?article?ID=192200741 [9] Nachyuck Chang, “Theory of Oscilloscope,” SNU. http://elpl.snu.ac.kr/csd07/lecturenote/4_dso.pdf [10] Sonia Ben Dhia, Mohamed Ramdani, and Etienne Sicard, /Electromagnetic Compatibility of Integrated Circuits: Techniques for Low Emission and Susceptibility,/ Springer, 2005. ISBN: [11] Mike Eberly and Larry Dunleavy, “Student’s Introduction to the HP8714 RF Network Analyzer,” 1998 http://ee.eng.usf.edu/people/dunleavy/references/reading2.pdf [12] Morris Engelson and Fred Telewski, /Spectrum Analyzer Theory and Applications,/ Artech House, 1974. ISBN-10: 089006024X, ISBN-13: 978-0890060247 [13] Y. W. Fowlkes, C. L. Creveling, /Engineering Methods for Robust Product Design/, Addison-Wesley, 1995. [14] Gene Garat, and Staff of IBM, “EMSAT Rules Checker 16 Rules,” Moss Bay EDA and IBM, http://www.mossbayeda.com/EMSAT-Rules.pdf, March 2006. [15] Michael Hiebel, /Fundamentals of Vector Network Analysis/, Rohde & Schwarz, ISBN: 978-3-939837-0 [16] Todd Hubing, “Circuit Board Layout to Reduce Noise Emission and Susceptibility,” University of Missouri – Rolla, March 2006 [17] Multivariate Statistical Analysis: IBM Data Explorer, http://www.research.ibm.com/dx/ [18] Staff, ICEM #62014-3, “Electromagnetic Compatibility Part 3 Integrated Circuits Electrical Modeling,” IEC Standard Proposal/, /2002. [19] Staff, IEC # 61000-4-2, “Electromagnetic Compatibility Part 4-2 Testing and Measurement Techniques – Electrostatic Discharge Immunity Test, IEC, 2001. ISBN: 2-8318-5687-6 [20] Yoonjae Lee and Raj Mittra, “Electromagnetic Interference Mitigation by Using a Spread-Spectrum Approach,” IEEE Transactions on Electromagnetic Compatibility, Vol. 44, No. 2, May 2002. [22] Roy Leventhal and Lynne Green, Semiconductor Modeling: For Simulating Signal, Power and Electromagnetic Integrity, Springer, 2006. ISBN 0-387-24159-0 [23] Michel Mardiguian, /Controlling Radiated Emissions by Design, 2^nd Ed.,/ Springer, 2001. ISBN: 0792379780 [24] F. D. Martzloff, “Lightening and NEMP Transient Protection with Metal Oxide Varistors,” General Electric Technical Information Series 82CRD084, 1982. [25] Staff, Maxim, “A Beginners Guide to Filter Topologies,” Application Note 1762 Maxim, Inc., 2002, http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/1762 [26] Staff, Maxim, “EMI/EMC Suppression in Audio/Video Interfaces,” Application Note 3882 Maxim, Inc., 2006, http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/3882 [27] Scott Mee, Roy Leventhal, Al Wexler and Mike Ventham, “Simulation for the Suppression of PCB Emissions in Digital Telematics Devices,” ITEM Update 2002, p56. [28] Staff of Mentor Graphics, “Design Rule Checks (DRC) for QuietExpert,” Mentor Graphics, June 2005 [29] Staff of National Instruments, “Noise Figure Measurement with the National Instruments RF Signal Generator and RF Vector Signal Analyzer,” National Instruments, 2006 http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3737 [30] Henry W. Ott, /Noise Reduction Techniques in Electronic Systems, 2^nd Ed./, John Wiley & Sons, 1988. ISBN: 0-471-85068-3 [31] Edward Pasahow, /Electronics Pocket Reference, 2^nd Ed/., McGraw-Hill, 1994. ISBN 0-07-048737-5 [32] Clayton R. Paul, Introduction to Electromagnetic Compatibility, John Wiley & Sons, 1992. ISBN: 0-471-54927-4 [33] R. A. Pease, /Troubleshooting Analog Circuits/, Newnes, 1991. ISBN: 0750694998 [34] R. Perez, Editor, /Handbook of Electromagnetic Compatibility,/ Academic Press, Inc. 1995. [35] A. Peterson, S. Ray & R. Mittra, Computational Methods for Electromagnetics, IEEE Press & Oxford University Press, 1998. [36] M. S. Phadke, /Quality Engineering Using Robust Design/, Prentice-Hall, 1989. [37] Muhammad H. Rashid, Power /Electronics: Circuits, Devices and Applications, 2^nd Ed./, Prentice Hall, 1993. ISBN 0-13-678996-X [38] Christoph Rauscher, /Fundamentals of Spectrum Analysis/, Rohde & Schwarz, ISBN: 978-3-939837-00-8 [39] Staff, /Environmental Conditions and Test Procedures for Airborne Equipment, DO-160E,/ RTCA, Inc., 2004 [41] Madhavan Swaminathan and A. Ege Engin, /Power Integrity Modeling and Design for Semiconductors and Systems,/ Prentice Hall, 2008. ISBN: 0-13-615206-6 [42] Staff of Wavecrest, “Oscilloscope – Getting Started,” Wavecrest 2001. http://www.wavecrest.com/technical/VISI_6_Getting_Started_Guides/6oscilloscope.pdf [44] Wikipedia, “Electronic test equipment” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_test_equipment [45] Wikipedia, “Insulated-gate bipolar transistor” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGBT [46] A. B. Williams & F. J. Taylor, /Electronic Filter Design Handbook, 3^rd Ed./, McGraw-Hill, 1995. [47] Staff X2Y, “App Note # 3008, V1, Get the Most from X2Y Capacitors with Proper Attachment Techniques,” X2Y Attenuators, LLC. 2/23/2006. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <#_ftnref1> Good Luck Roy Leventhal Avtaar Singh wrote: > Gurus: > Can someone please name the Top 5 Signal Integrity schools in the US, for > me? > > Thanks for the kind help! > > Regards, > Avtaar > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu