Hey Fred: great question. If I remember correctly, I thought one time I read somewhere that you said that your beloved "Paladen" didn't like to be shown, and as we all know he was a superior animal and producer of superior animals. Because you said in your post that in the class there were at least 4 top quality animals, I'd go with the dog that showed me the superior quality, but not necessarily the "showing fool". Obviously he's alot smarter than the others in the class and finds charging around a ring just that.......foolish. A superior structured animal only has to walk for a knowledgeable judge to see this dog is put together correctly. Besides I don't recall reading in the standard anything saying a dog should show like a "showing fool" to be the standard of the breed. Thanks for "picking our brains". As always, IMHO, Barbara Galass= o EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx wrote: > >First do we agree dog shows are a place to evaluate breeding stock. The j= udge >is saying with his/her top placings these are the dogs that in my opinion= >should be used for breeding. With this in mind. you have a class of more = than 4 >animals in that class you have at least 4 top quality animals one of whic= h is a >showing fool never puts a foot down wrong. But there is one that is obvio= usly >superior in structure but is an uninspired show dog in fact the only time= you >can evaluate it's gait is when it is heading for the exit. WHO WINS and= >why. > Fred Migliore ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================