First do we agree dog shows are a place to evaluate breeding stock. The judge is saying with his/her top placings these are the dogs that in my opinion should be used for breeding. With this in mind. you have a class of more than 4 animals in that class you have at least 4 top quality animals one of which is a showing fool never puts a foot down wrong. But there is one that is obviously superior in structure but is an uninspired show dog in fact the only time you can evaluate it's gait is when it is heading for the exit. WHO WINS and why. Fred Migliore Personally, dog shows are one of the places to evaluate breeding stock. I would prefer to see other attributes when choosing a stud, but that is just me and not the issue at hand <G> Assuming that the superior dog has passed its temperament test, and the judge has not made any final judgement/placement, then, if I can observe correct movement on the dog who looks awesome going towards the exit, being superior in every other way, that dog would be my winner. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================