[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: New Question. judges & future judges

  • From: lollark@xxxxxxx
  • To: pmick@xxxxxxxxx, almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:11:39 +0000

I'm sorry Peggy...I was following your logic but it's NOT obvious to me what 
you're meaning.
Karen Lollar
-------------- Original message from Peggy <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>: -------------- 


> In the end, we have to remember that Fred's scenario is too simple, as 
> was Joan's question. The truth is that a good judge approaches every 
> assignment as a fresh start...what you THINK you might be looking for 
> can change when the dogs of the day come before you. 
> You may have a particular quality that means a whole lot to you, and 
> on any given day, have to give more weight to a completely different 
> quality. You may have something that just eliminates a dog (in your 
> mind) and in any given class, overlook that one thing because the rest 
> of the dog just knocks your socks off. 
> So - ideally, with all other things being equal (which never 
> happens), yes, the judge should go with the best dog, even if it lacks 
> showmanship and attitude. The real problem is that if the dog lacks 
> showmanship and hangs around like a piece of dead meat, the judge isn't 
> going to find him. Well, maybe in a class of 4, if the other three are 
> average or less. 
> Worse than the deadhead, maybe, are the dogs who are so strung out 
> that they are nearly out of control, and the only thing the judge ever 
> sees in them is their gait...and maybe not even that, steadily...just a 
> view now and then. Is that enough? It shouldn't be. Not because I'm 
> into working dogs, but we are supposed to be finding the best...and the 
> best overall, not the best in one thing. Attitude and temperament 
> comprise PART of the best, no dog should just be sidegait. 
> By the same token, if the dog has a fault that completely 
> obliterates his good qualities (in the judge's eyes), he should not 
> win. That's obvious. On the other hand, if the judge is just looking 
> for what's wrong with the dog, he shouldn't be judging...we're supposed 
> to find what's right, not what's wrong. 
> Within the written Standard, there is room for each judge to place 
> more importance on something different...Fred might not like green dogs, 
> I may not like blue ones, and Evan might not like spotted ones. If the 
> Standard just faults these things and doesn't tell us how much to fault 
> them, then we are each right to place our own weight on these faults. 
> We can only place extra weight on faults that the Standard gives weight 
> to...when you add our personal preferences to these faults (still 
> staying within them as defined in the Standard), well, folks, that's dog 
> shows. 
> I have two things that bother me more than any other, for 
> instance..but have been known to overlook one of those when I fall hard 
> for the rest of the dog, especially when the gait is stunning. That's 
> just an example--- on the other hand, the other thing that makes me 
> crazy is likely to make me not even see the rest of the dog once I see 
> that fault. Now, you tell me, from those two sentences, can you tell 
> which one of the things that bothers me is a fault of structure and the 
> other of gait? You should be able to tell............ 
> Peggy 
> > 
> > 
> 
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