In a message dated 8/22/2005 9:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: show results are important to many..even non-members..we are trying to encourage folks to join the PC...even as an associate member...(which would be a nominal membership fee and more like a donation) ..is not worth a nominal fee to view? I'm guessing we're talking about Futurity/Maturity/National classes, right? Most everything else is on a superintendent's (or club's) sight by the following Monday. Even Rau has stepped it up, which would include the aforementioned...which would negate the need to make results "members only". Love the idea of an associate membership Christine...maybe we could send one free issue of the Review w/ an invitation to upgrade to a "real" membership... I like the idea of welcoming folks, but not limiting access to information which could be readily found on the web someplace else <results, pedigrees, etc.>:) We need to answer the question "why join". I mean, we're all GSD fanatics, but put yourself in the place of a person w/ one or two dogs...I sat next to a lady w/ a black GSD at a performance event recently. She runs an obedience school, has had GSDs for 30+ years, is a Rally judge and I was surprised to find she was local. She's not a member of our Regional Club, I looked in the catalog for her last name and didn't recognize it and asked if she was a PC member. No. (And believe me, that response was accompanied by a snort!) Didn't see any benefit. Now, I'm sure some will say you join to give back, but put that aside for a minute, put yourself in this lady's shoes, obviously INVOLVED w/ dogs, but sees no benefit to joining the PC....put yourself in her shoes...there's many, many like her...dog involved but not breed ring involved. Why join?) How do we reach THESE people? Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================